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Redfox Member Since: 07 Jan 2024 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 152 |
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13th May 2024 6:30 am |
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IanMetro Member Since: 11 Sep 2017 Location: Somerset BS21 Posts: 3107 |
I have noticed that quite a few of the EVs I have looked at felt 'empty' and less sturdy than my FL2.
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13th May 2024 8:28 am |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2071 |
A 5 ☆ Euro N CAP of today exceeds that of the test that was carried out when the Freelander 2 was awarded its 5 ☆ rating.
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13th May 2024 7:31 pm |
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Just a driver Member Since: 29 Nov 2021 Location: Norfolk Posts: 409 |
I wonder how many people who buy used cars think about how safe a car is in a crash or it’s strength. Most people I know think of initial cost, mpg , road tax price and can I get it fixed cheaply locally if it breaks. |
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13th May 2024 7:48 pm |
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TooBlue Member Since: 30 Oct 2019 Location: Midlands Posts: 265 |
I like the way EV owners always appear out of nowhere to defend their offspring of a Sinclair C5, whenever someone says anything negative about them.
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13th May 2024 8:52 pm |
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IanMetro Member Since: 11 Sep 2017 Location: Somerset BS21 Posts: 3107 |
Nodge, I have read, in several places lately, about this method of attaching Large Scale Aluminium Castings front and back of the Battery Pack, and it being the method of the future. It simplifies the number of parts and fastenings/welds by a huge amount, thus saving lots of money and production time. It means that a deformable crash structure has to be added at the ends, but any larger damage would need a whole casting replacement. I read that Musk got the idea from toy Die-Cast Model Cars. Toyota, amongst others, is investing in the technology. https://www.ft.com/content/08048b42-ce72-4b64-9e0e-d15fbc98a9da PS A Bristol Vauxhall Car Dealer suffered a suspected EV Car Fire, If you look at the flames on the right of the video, they definitely have the characteristic 'burning gas' look that you get with EV Fires. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2544ndvkepo FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011) FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015) Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History (Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?) |
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13th May 2024 10:03 pm |
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IanMetro Member Since: 11 Sep 2017 Location: Somerset BS21 Posts: 3107 |
Have you tried driving one? I was loaned a Jag I-Pace for a day and was very impressed by the way it went - quiet, smooth, and very fast. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011) FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015) Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History (Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?) |
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13th May 2024 10:07 pm |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2071 |
We own 4 fossil fuel vehicles in our family, 1 of which is being replaced by an EV. I've done a huge amount or research into the benefits and pitfalls of the power train. There is a massive reduction in cost per mile if charged at home on a cheap rate. A good EV is also much more pleasant to drive, especially long distances as they are devoid of noise and vibration. Performance wise, even a low cost model is faster than the ICE equivalent, and high performance models are just crazy fast. I'll be swapping my aging Freelander 2 for a shiny new EV of similar dimensions, as it'll work for us, and be 10th of the fuel costs per mile. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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14th May 2024 6:30 am |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2071 |
Vehicle construction design is advancing all the time as new materials are being used, and more innovative ways are being developed to use these newer materials. Tesla's aluminium casting and sheet construction isn't new, Audi used similar techniques in the early 2000s for its large saloon models. However Tesla have the money to be able to pay top designers and engineers to achieve the goals required by Musk. I doubt he's responsible for any designs himself, he's just got the money to get the job done. If there were no EVs in that dealer, it wouldn't get in the news, like the other 500 or so dealer vehicle fires last year. As it only took 2 hours for the fire service to put the fire out, I'd suggest that an EV battery fire wasn't involved. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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14th May 2024 6:42 am |
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Just a driver Member Since: 29 Nov 2021 Location: Norfolk Posts: 409 |
I don’t think people take to much notice of a fire like that. It’s just the same if a supermarket has a scare , the shop reduces prices and people rush into buying stuff again and quickly forget about what ever the problem was. Ev are the same if the government wants us all driving them it has to get out it’s cheque book and pay or a big stick and beat us into submission. Simple. |
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14th May 2024 6:57 am |
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IanMetro Member Since: 11 Sep 2017 Location: Somerset BS21 Posts: 3107 |
IT WILL BE THE BIG STICK. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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14th May 2024 8:32 am |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2071 |
The government doesn't want us all driving them though, as they'll loose billions in fuel duty and RFL, which will have to come from somewhere else. The current government did away with the new zero emission vehicle purchase benefit, which proved it wanted to slow down the rate that EVs were being bought. However the UK has signed up to various emissions reduction targets, so has to be seen to be supporting low emissions targets, even if it's just smoke and mirrors. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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14th May 2024 9:14 pm |
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TooBlue Member Since: 30 Oct 2019 Location: Midlands Posts: 265 |
Very few people drive EV's quickly though. I am nearly always stuck behind an EV being driven slowly. Presumably as the range suffers at a decent speed. |
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14th May 2024 11:34 pm |
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ReggiePerrin Member Since: 13 Mar 2013 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1261 |
◼︎ VAT on domestic electricity used to charge EVs increased from 5% to 20%) ◼︎ Perhaps even a 'propulsion duty' on electricity used to charge EVs to match that of existing road fuels will comfortably replace lost fossil fuel and RFL revenues. |
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14th May 2024 11:41 pm |
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