As always the devil is in the detail. Jules

Everything depends on where you live I'm in Spain but on a cloudy day I'm lucky to get 1kW/hr with a 4.6kW solar array and I get at least 8 hours sunlight /day in mid winter, my daughter lives in Scotland and needs 16 panel array and a battery to make it pay as well as a night tariff, that just ain't cheap, definitely no change for a BEV but a 10year old Focus diesel estate suffices, probably saves more CO2 than buying another car, the trees in the garden probably offsets even more, she does have an acre of oaks and birch.
Sorry noticed an error it's 16 panel array not kW so 7.4KW about. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

Last edited by Dartman the one on 23rd Apr 2023 7:52 pm. Edited 1 time in total

Solar panel’s might be great for young people but for older people will they be dead before they even break even let alone make big profit out of them

Depends on how much cash you have even if you're 80 you can still benefit though life is finite the actual date isn't promulgated in advance. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

The older someone is the quicker the return needs to be. At 80 I think that there is little chance of getting your money back. If the cash was in a bank it would be giving some return, unless it was to spend money to get below a threshold to be able to claim more benefits, like free care at home etc

NEW EV FIRE SPECIALIST VEHICLE

I spotted this vehicle that is designed to get to, and extinguish, EV fires, quickly, by piercing the battery casing and flooding with water.

It should help if someone is trapped in an EV vehicle.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/britis...&ei=33 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Just a driver wrote:

Solar panel’s might be great for young people but for older people will they be dead before they even break even let alone make big profit out of them

Just a driver wrote:

The older someone is the quicker the return needs to be. At 80 I think that there is little chance of getting your money back. If the cash was in a bank it would be giving some return, unless it was to spend money to get below a threshold to be able to claim more benefits, like free care at home etc

I guess it highlights some people must use a lot more electric then others. We had one of those community solar group things say it was over 10 grand plus any other extra if scaffolding different to normal etc, plus loss of interest that would of been earned. We definitely don’t use that much electric in 5 or 6 years. Love your optimism for living to a 100 and avoiding dementia, cancer etc or not ending up in a care home. Still think it’s better suited to younger people.

Just a thought but if the London ULEZ thing happens in August this year you would expect a lot of people to start offloading non compliant vehicles over the summer so as long as you don't live in another clean air area eg Bristol, Bath etc there might be some good FL2 deals as the prices fall. Any thoughts? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

It's already getting priced in on trade values. It will take a while before people are prepared to take the "hit" on their possibly inflated expectations when selling privately, but as some of the supply issues with new cars start ironing out, I anticipate we'll see this start to work through to asking prices. Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Nodge68 wrote:

The original purchaser might not benefit, but also might as some people live to 100. However as the house value goes up a few % with solar on the roof, the family will benefit later on, even if the original purchaser doesn't.

I must admit investing 10 grand and getting 2 grand a year for the rest of your life sounds good, but is that real or just Internet talk. Harry’s farm did a good review on his solar and he ain’t short of a Bob or 2. He keeps records etc and said what they claim it will generate is no where near what it actually does.

Just a driver wrote:

Solar panel’s might be great for young people but for older people will they be dead before they even break even let alone make big profit out of them

If they are dead then I don`t think they will be too worried about the lack of return unless you have found a way of taking it with you when you go!

No, but they could have spent their money on something more enjoyable.

Ive had my house externally insulated lasy year. I needed to completely re-render the house as the previous owners had done it on the cheap. The Insulation cost only £10K more than the rendering would have done and I felt an immediate benefit - the house is warmer. Jules