Lightwater I live in England not SUNNY Australia, so my cost/benefit sums are different.

(please send me some of your sunshine) FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Yes I think you’re right and it will be a complicated tariff of when we can or cannot charge the batteries up, or it will be like some third world country with loads of generators running.

On the whole, solar and storage are nearly twice the cost in Australia compared the price of similar products in the UK. However Australia does get more sunshine, so the payback times are comparable.

My solar panels are rated at 3.78kW, however the inverter is rated at 3.6kW, so that's effectively the maximum output. I've seen just under 26kWhr in one day this summer, which hasn't been a good one for solar so far.
On a good summer, I should see over 500kWhr per month, but that's not happened this summer yet. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

Jaguar have issued a recall on some 264 I-Paces from around 2019 MY.

They will either change the Traction Battery or buy the car back.

Fire risk meant that owners have been advised to keep the car away from house.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RCMN-24V183-6155.pdf FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

"Jaguar no longer sells any new cars in UK - and won't until 2026"

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consume...until-2026 Jules

IanMetro wrote:

Jaguar have issued a recall on some 264 I-Paces from around 2019 MY.

They will either change the Traction Battery or buy the car back.

Fire risk meant that owners have been advised to keep the car away from house.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RCMN-24V183-6155.pdf

Once you start looking, it would appear that the Jaguar I-Pace Battery Problem may effect more cars than indicated in Recall H484.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCRIT-23V369-3376.pdf

The USA seems to have more stringent rules regarding Recalls, it might be worth checking your EV Car Model for recalls in North America. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Nodge68 wrote:

Nice.
I've not gone for a battery, as it doesn't make financial sense. We're now on an EV tariff, which means very cheap electricity between 12 and 7am. The solar takes over in the daytime, so offsetting the slightly higher electricity charge between 7am an 12 midnight. I also get paid for my excess generation in sent to the grid, so a battery wouldn't be worth quite so much as it would to someone who isn't on an EV tariff. Although I guess I could charge the battery on the EV tariff, and use the energy when it's expensive? Something for me to think about.

Who are you with, if you dont mind me asking.

Im having solar panels inc battery etc installed next week.

As it happens energy supplier tarrif has ended (now on standard varible) and Im looking at alternative suppliers of electricity only (no gas here) . Jules

I am with octopus on the go intelligent tarrif for electricity
And export is outgoing octopus 12month fixed







You need a car or charger that they can control the charging of to access this tarrif and what they do when you plug in is create a charge plan in 30 min slots you just tell them when it wants to be ready for
If it decides it wants or needs to charge outside the the normal cheap window you will also get that slot at cheap rate nit just for the car but all consumption

It's not for everyone but it works for me

pinhead wrote:

Nodge68 wrote:

Nice.
I've not gone for a battery, as it doesn't make financial sense. We're now on an EV tariff, which means very cheap electricity between 12 and 7am. The solar takes over in the daytime, so offsetting the slightly higher electricity charge between 7am an 12 midnight. I also get paid for my excess generation in sent to the grid, so a battery wouldn't be worth quite so much as it would to someone who isn't on an EV tariff. Although I guess I could charge the battery on the EV tariff, and use the energy when it's expensive? Something for me to think about.

I think we may be on the same tarrif
I have solar and battery I charge the battery overnight on the cheap rate and export as much solar as possible as they pay just over double for my export as I pay them on the cheap overnight rate
This also means I get cheap rate electricity all day every day even if the sun doesn't shine
So the bills for electricity this year are running about £20 a month that's with an EV Doing 18k miles a year home charged and the running of a 3 bed semi
If the standing charge hadn't gone up so much I would be running without a bill I suspect

Just had a solar system inc battery installed 4 days ago- works well it seems.
With the low winter sunlight we still didnt use any grid electricity from 0800 to 1600, despite running the washing machine for several hours.

The question being asked by our neighgbours is "when are you getting a BEV"?

Well, it makes no sense changing the FL2 at the moment.

We use the Fiesta ST3 for our daily driving; usually short jouneys of a few miles. So It would seem the obvious choice to change.
So Ive added up all the costs for the last 4 years (inc depreciation, servicing, MOT, insurance , VED, tyres, fuel) and that comes to £456 per month.
The biggest cost being the depreciation by a very large margin.


Is there a small BEV out there (with similar versatility and performance) that can better that ? If so, my wife would like to know.

I dont want one like Harry reviewed; with a towing range of less than 100 miles.
 Jules

Take a look at the new Renault 5 , the specs are being released now , after 12 months of teasing , it’s retro cool , and very high tech , with around 150 hp equivalent and instant torque it should be quite a fun drive for a ‘ shopping car ‘ ! 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

thanks will have a look Jules

Looks like its only 2 door. SWMBO wants a 4 door car. Jules