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landgreen Member Since: 24 Nov 2017 Location: Jasper Posts: 7 |
It's not true to say that "all" EU6 diesels suffered from diesel dilution - at least not to the extent seen on the 16-17MY Disco Sport and Evoque 2.0L. Interestingly, JLR denied using cheat devices within one working day of the EPA's announcement regarding VW ( https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-d...e-10109887 ). At the time use of defeat devices was believed to be the norm amongst diesel manufacturers so maybe the cars with the worst problems were the ones where they'd been hastily deleted?
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12th Feb 2020 9:55 pm |
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Sperly Member Since: 26 Dec 2019 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 195 |
Might explain why JLR were frantically searching for a defeat device engineer in July 2017 I guess....
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12th Feb 2020 10:14 pm |
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oldgeezer Member Since: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 1302 |
best advice is if you don't want oil changes every 3600 miles at 180 quid with Land rover and the risk of a failed balance shaft or timing chain then just leave the diesels completely alone
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13th Feb 2020 5:36 pm |
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Tigger Member Since: 30 Mar 2011 Location: L15KRD Posts: 2555 |
I take it that you realise that the petrol and Diesel engines share the same balance shafts?
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13th Feb 2020 8:07 pm |
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Aussie Battler Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: Apsley Posts: 93 |
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14th Feb 2020 6:26 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
Yes but isn't the issue that the DPF related oil dilution is what's screwing the balance shafts. I guess that it's not an issue with the petrol versions. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto 5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE |
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14th Feb 2020 9:43 am |
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Tigger Member Since: 30 Mar 2011 Location: L15KRD Posts: 2555 |
No, it’s not DPF related. The issue would appear to be to do with the needle roller bearings on the balance shaft running (amazingly) directly on the crankcase casting! Look at one of the illustrations on the link in my original post and see what I mean.
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14th Feb 2020 12:43 pm |
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Tigger Member Since: 30 Mar 2011 Location: L15KRD Posts: 2555 |
This image:
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14th Feb 2020 12:45 pm |
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Bobupndown Member Since: 26 Dec 2014 Location: Upside down behind the TV! Posts: 2805 |
But is the cause of the balance shaft / bearing failures not related to the oil being diluted by diesel after DPF regens and not providing the lubrication required, hence the failures?
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14th Feb 2020 1:28 pm |
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Boxbrownie Member Since: 17 Mar 2019 Location: Looe Posts: 2053 |
^^^ Regards
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14th Feb 2020 8:15 pm |
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Tigger Member Since: 30 Mar 2011 Location: L15KRD Posts: 2555 |
As you’re giving such a big “thumbs up”, does this mean that you know an answer to Bobupndown’s question? |
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14th Feb 2020 8:45 pm |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
Just had a look on the DS forum and picked this up
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15th Feb 2020 10:03 am |
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Sperly Member Since: 26 Dec 2019 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 195 |
I have to corroborate that. Whilst incredibly thirsty compared to my old Freelander, they are quiet, powerful and at times, you wonder if the engine has acttually stalled! No issues for me over the last 1500 miles...early days yet, granted, but so far so good. |
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15th Feb 2020 10:11 am |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4906 |
The petrol engine in the Freelander is brilliant & with all the acoustic insulation I have stuffed in the car it is even better. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!
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15th Feb 2020 10:17 am |
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