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jules



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Don't buy a Land Rover in 2020 (& here's why)

As a "curry munching Brexitanian" Laughing I think I'll just stick with my very reliable (so far) Freelander 2 and when the time comes probably buy something not from JLR.

 Jules


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Superb.. I think im'e sticking with the Freelander forever after watching that.
He does sum up LR as a company very well Thumbs Up 94 Disco 300 TDI Gone
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For the Brexitanians, "Sh#tsville" is Sydney I think. And in other of his podcasts "Retardistan" is the USA Laughing Jules

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A lot of "technical" explanation!

My petrol Freelander has longer service intervals.

Not a lot one can do about 'driving style' at an average 32kph in Sydney other than getting slower! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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I believe that loud mouthed ranters, like Scotty and now this new foul mouthed one from Australia, who are making a living from shouting out popularist and unbalanced nonsense, like this, need to be stood up to!

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Re: Don't buy a Land Rover in 2020 (& here's why)

jules wrote:
I think I'll just stick with my very reliable (so far) Freelander 2 and when the time comes probably buy something not from JLR.


You’re not taking this fool seriously, are you?! Rolling Eyes Laughing

Sounder advice would simply be to avoid transverse engined, Ingenium equipped, diesel cars if you’re planning on driving a lot of stop start journeys in town if you want to preserve the laughably long service intervals!


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He does have a point somewhat though, doesn't he?

Although I feel that it's a bit unfair to blame LR as a company for their franchised dealership(s) appalling attitude towards it customers generally....they are the weak link in the chain. Once you find a decent dealer, stay with them.....they are few and very far between it would seem. One only has to refer to the recent thread on here about a 14 plate XS and the derisory £4K trade-in allowance offered by one of the aforementioned for confirmation....

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Please see my updated post above Thumbs Up

Let ranters, like this one, have their way unchallenged and you’ll be lucky to see as much as £4,000 as a trade in valuation! Even the OP seems to feel it necessary to abandon LR altogether on the basis of this 12 minutes of viral click bait.

PS: I can’t find the thread on the £4,000 trade in. Could you provide me with a link please? I did find one with a Suzuki dealer declining to offer any trade in at all for a FL2 again a new RAV4. Lucky man Thumbs Up

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Tigger wrote:
Even the OP seems to feel it necessary to abandon LR altogether on the basis of this 12 minutes of viral click bait.



Well, to be honest I thought that long before this diatribe from JC.

SWMBO is on her third FL2, having had four FL1s and 3 Discoverys before those. All the Freelanders have been very reliable (except first FL1 which had the IRD replaced under warranty) and cheap to run once out of main dealer servicing - so we are happy to keep the current one for as long as possible.
Unfortunately nothing in the current JLR range appeals to us for various reasons (cost/reliability etc). So it is likely our next 4x4 will not be from JLR unless things change. Jules


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I’d agree, LR haven’t made it easy for us to buy again. I’ve switched models as the good stuff has gradually been phased out and I’m now going to run the Fatty into the ground, as there’s no where else to go now Big Cry

However, I’d hate for anyone to base a buying decision based on the “evidence” provided by the idiot in this video!🙄

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Thank you to the member who provided me with the link to the £4,000 PC offer 👍

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Tigger wrote:
I’d agree, LR haven’t made it easy for us to buy again. I’ve switched models as the good stuff has gradually been phased out and I’m now going to run the Fatty into the ground, as there’s no where else to go now Big Cry

However, I’d hate for anyone to base a buying decision based on the “evidence” provided by the idiot in this video!🙄


But its not just this guy's view, its fact that these cars are flawed, Landrover knows about it, dealers know about it and all they are begrudgingly doing is changing the oil as a goodwill gesture. They need to sort out the problem or admit your £50k new car needs serviced every 10k miles.

Its ok for those who have a new one on a PCP and warranty, all they are faced with is the inconvenience of having to get it serviced more often. I feel sorry for the subsequent owners and the problems they may be facing down the line as the oil dilution issue results in engine failures.

My wife would love to change her Tiguan for an Evoque or a Disco Sport but I really cant see us doing so given the issues LR have with their Ingenium engines.

I personally found the guy entertaining! Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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