decided to go shooting this morning with the kids, so packed up the car, with 3 air rifles, two air tanks and my shotgun carts and headed off to park lodge shooting ground.

The carpark was heaving, I've never seen so many cars in it, decided to leave kids in the car, head down to the air rifle range and check it out, that was full. Decided to call it a day and not shoot, as they were having a regional completion

Thats when i realised I hadn't taken my shotgun out of the safe and with me

So a quick look in the Gun Room and they had a nice 28g Shotgun I had seen online and now i have a lovely looking wood, Turkish Friend 'Yildiz' in Junior Stock for the kids in the cabinets

Maybe back tomorrow to give it a go






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About £259 for 16g fibre 6's or 7's Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

16gm , should be a nice gentle introduction for your children. Strange how cartridge prices are inverse to the the bore I'm sure you will be having a few pops yourself, wonder if you could stretch the 16gms to a driven bird off Park Lodge's high tower  2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Can't hit them with 12g never mind a 28g

Hopefully the kids will enjoy, the 16g should lesson the kick to his shoulder, but got to teach him holding and how to stand first

So think it will time in front of the mirror, getting the mount and move on to the range soon enough Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Once in a while just for a laugh we take a Hushpower silenced . 410 to Kelbrook Lodge. It's quite a feat to break one of the more reasonable 40' driven clays with just a puny little pop . I'm doing a bit more shooting now I've packed in working  2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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I'm going to shoot more this year, rigged up home air rifle target today and sent a few down range

Think the neighbours might get annoyed with the reactive targets I make though  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

First outing didn't go as planned, the recoil hurt his shoulder and that was that

The purchase of a recoil pad and fitting it has made him less susceptible so had a nice morning

Great advice from the chap down at Recoil Systems about pad suitability and purchased a ISIS Pad from him





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Hi NP, if you don't mind me saying ( I'm sure you will tell me if you do ), from that one picture I'd say the stock is too long for him, and that would be a cause for feeling recoil. His cheek is miles above the comb, and his head is canted over to the right. Recoil of course is subjective , but considering the above two points are probably causing him to lean slightly backwards then the butt will be in the shoulder muscle/ bicep not the shoulder pocket. Pop that lot together and you will have a less than ideal situation. With his cheek on the stock and a weight neutral or front foot stance , and gun mounted tight to the shoulder, the perceived recoil will be less. For around the price of 500 cartridges you could probably get the gun fitted for him, correct drop at comb and correct cast set. Of course for the length issue the " pull" distance would be reduced to suit his stature and could incorporate a sorbothane pad which could have spacers added as he grew a little.

Obviously I'm basing it on one picture , and on my lifelong belief that an hours gunfitting is worth a month of practice

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Martyn, they were my first thoughts too! the recoil will be felt more, as his head is too high etc., as described by yourself!

Maybe an hours tuition with the shooting grounds professional would help get his stance right, which in turn would hopefully help him enjoy his shooting in the future ?

I think that's a good call Geordie, and I happen to know the shooting ground NP uses has some great coaches, a chap called Bob Agaar being one of t He used to run the gun shop in Otley near Leeds. 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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the photo was a quick snapshot, not sure if it was in his shoulder at the time of clicking either

he does have a tendency to lean backward when he first stands there, a natural standing when your holding a 'heavy' gun out front of you, but when i am next to him, i get him front foot forward and holding the weight on it or spread over both, butt in the pocket etc

still going to see how he goes, before fitting the gun to him as i think he needs to build confidence first, at the moment he can't brake barrels or snap it shut Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

I'm looking at similar shotguns for my 10 yr old son........was at Gilsans, Richmond today

I'm going to book him an intro session soon....... and go from there...

Ten years ago I paid for my lad to have lessons at Kelbrook Shooting School when he was 13 . It was a great investment because he was taught the basics in a very nice setting, and was not under any pressure from me. At that age We put him straight onto a 12 bore with 21 gm training cartridges. The weight of the gun , and the light recoil down the bigger bore , made it a very confortable experience for him. Even now as an infrequent clay shooter he still has good basics and often puts a number of my self taught pals to shame 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Rimini HSE wrote:

I'm looking at similar shotguns for my 10 yr old son........was at Gilsans, Richmond today

I'm going to book him an intro session soon....... and go from there...