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fredastaire Member Since: 03 Dec 2012 Location: Holbrook Posts: 721 |
This whole saga was started by a lady lawyer called Yamaha fan from Munich, she joined the forum in June 2007 and last posted in May 2011 which is now 4 years ago.
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17th Apr 2015 2:45 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
I got the impression that the manual mentioned was for special purposes - ie "third world" use. The implication was that you would add TSO in areas where the diesel is dodgy.
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17th Apr 2015 3:04 pm |
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dr. tom Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Duesseldorf/NRW Posts: 15 |
Yes, dear Npinks. You want proof that 2SO works. What proof have you submitted, that 2SO does not work, other than polemic bullshit and the reference to the test of one oil producer.
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17th Apr 2015 3:09 pm |
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ReggiePerrin Member Since: 13 Mar 2013 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1262 |
Isn't it really the case that if 2SO really delivered any quantifiable benefit, then diesel sellers would be on it like a tramp on chips and selling us all 2SO enhanced diesel for a few pence more per litre than the price of regular diesel?
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17th Apr 2015 4:13 pm |
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taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 |
As a mod, we can see email addresses of registered members, helps in validating genuine members and it is information that is kept secret unless the member has ticked the box. I emailed Yamaha Fan politely requesting a response, the email bounced back as the account is no longer in use ... |
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17th Apr 2015 4:56 pm |
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Paul Member Since: 10 Feb 2007 Location: Ghent Posts: 417 |
as I already said on Nov.17th 2007: If they did, it would mean that they admit their engines - or at least their sophisticated diesel injection pumps - are not adapted to the modern diesel fuel. That wouldn't be in their own interest, would it ? And if the fuel manufacturers would admit the benefits, they would admit their expensive diesel isn't good enough. So it was and is clear that from neither carmanufacturers nor fuel producers, you'll never get any recommendation for the use of 2SO. (which of course doesn't mean that therefore it is beneficial). Last edited by Paul on 17th Apr 2015 7:28 pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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17th Apr 2015 7:07 pm |
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Ben Twillie Member Since: 19 Feb 2012 Location: Home Posts: 120 |
I have been using TSO in 2 cars for 4 years, the benefits have been obvious to me on both cars, one with DPF (reduced dose and JASO FC) and one with no DPF ( JASO FB ratio 1:200.) I really struggle with the nastiness that gets into this thread, started mainly by the anti side and which normally gets personal. We have one Mod who tries hard to keep a balance and one with a chip on his shoulder that does little to promote his case against the use of TSO. Most people post here to pass on tips and help members, nobody, as far as I can tell, sets out to publish harmful advice deliberately. FFS use it if you believe in it and don't use it if you don't. |
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19th Apr 2015 8:37 am |
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ReggiePerrin Member Since: 13 Mar 2013 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1262 |
They sort of admit it already in selling a standard grade and a more expensive premium grade. The standard fuel is good enough for the majority of consumers but hey look here, our premium grade with it's added benefits (clever marketing perhaps) is much better for your engine, performance and polar bears. If the benefits of added 2SO are real and consistently measurable then the likes of Shell, Texaco, BP etc would be adding it for us and promoting it as 'our best new improved diesel ever' and charging us accordingly. It would become the new standard fuel (for a penny or two per litre extra) which still leaves space for the premium fuel above it. |
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19th Apr 2015 9:49 am |
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oldgeezer Member Since: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 1302 |
well interesting topic.
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26th Apr 2015 11:02 am |
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donksey Member Since: 16 Nov 2014 Location: Surrey Posts: 87 |
I started using 2 stroke a couple of months back and for some rerason it took a few tanks full, but my mpg went gradually went from 25mpg urban to 30 mpg. Just to confirm this I did not add any in my fill up before this one, my MPG dropped back to 25MPG. Filed up again adding 2 stroke and it has crept back up to 30mpg again.
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1st Jun 2015 9:49 pm |
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MarkyTM Member Since: 17 Jan 2015 Location: Somerset Posts: 7 |
OK so coming up on 5 months of 2SO in every tankful of my 07 3.0 Audi A6 quattro TDI, as I fill 80lt each time I've been adding 750ml per tank at the station before I start to pump fuel.
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2nd Jun 2015 7:21 am |
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rjc1944 Member Since: 18 Dec 2011 Location: Perranporth, Cornwall Posts: 783 |
I hope my adding 2SO wasn't the cause of my faulty turbo.............. Ours - 2008 Stornoway Grey HSE Auto
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4th Jun 2015 2:52 pm |
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npinks Member Since: 28 Jun 2007 Location: Ls25 Posts: 20090 |
i doubt it my turbo went twice on the old car and i dont use it Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis |
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4th Jun 2015 2:58 pm |
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p5pete Member Since: 24 Apr 2015 Location: St. Helens, Merseyside. Posts: 10 |
Oh Boy, I am not sure if it works or not and may try it one day to find out for myself, but one thing that has been proven to my mind is what a nasty bit of work dr. tom is. He can not accept that Npinks can have a different view point so starts to be nasty. Examples, "Yes, dear Npinks." A sarcastic comment from someone who knows, not thinks, he is superior. "polemic bullshit" How dare you disagree with me. "Even me, as a full accademic," I am a superior being to you and will not be questioned. "Maybe one day you will understand these complex relations." I do and you don't so I am superior. Perhaps he also thinks it is OK to still put his towel on the deck chair. He has not posted since the post above and I for one hopes he will not do so again unless it is an apology to Npinks, who I have never met by the way. Cheers, Pete |
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14th Jun 2015 6:39 pm |
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