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athelstan



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VIN number location

Q: where is the VIN stamped onto the chassis?

Reason I ask was that this morning I took her Ladyship's FL2 for its Swiss version of the MOT for the first time. Okay you can see the VIN on the label at the base of the "B" pillar and in the bottom right corner of the windscreen - but - where is it stamped on the chassis?

The inspector/tester (local garages are not allowed to do these official tests, only your Kantone's own test centres do them) said that in his computer it states that it is stamped under the right rear seat. To he looked and could not see it. Then he looked under the left rear seat could not see it. So where is it chaps Question

As he failed to find it he failed her FL2, a vehicle which was bought by me new here in Switzerland from an official LR Dealer who had it supplied by the official LR Swiss importer who had it built by JLR in Hailwood.

Then he got "shirty" and failed the official LR Alloys because the serial numbers on theses 18" Evoque alloys that I fitted for her summer tyres were again not in his computer. Then he got really annoying and failed both fog lights. Not because they didn't work, but because the left was 3mm too high and the right 2mm too low. To say I was p*ss*d off with the Fascist git would be an understatement.

No fault found with any of the absolutely essential safety components just serial numbers not in his computer. So a retest is demanded and yet another fee to pay. And I have to get these serial numbers into his official computer system by telling my LR dealer to tell the official LR Swiss Importer to update their input to the Swiss Governments Vehicle technical data systems. I'm sure that is not going to be an easy task - especially as I will only have 2 or 3 weeks before the retest date. If it fails again they take the vehicle registration docs away from you and impound the FL2.

Final note: he did not test the horn or the main beam - just did not like Johnny Foreigner - typical.
A great start to the week. Twisted Evil

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Forward of the spare wheel, under the carpet and under the rear seat, access via the boot. Thumbs Up

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athelstan



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Many Thanks EY - appreciated. Thumbs Up

Right that's one smirk to be knocked off the examiner's face on the retest. His computer directions need to be amended in accordance with you excellent directions. Very Happy

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Re the PM:

Hi 'athelstan', here's the exact location of mine, no need to lift a seat, just lift the yellow sponge and all access from the boot Thumbs Up


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athelstan



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Thanks EY.
Just sent you a fresh PM Wink

Picture very useful as K will stuff it under the test examiners nose on Wednesday - she's on the war path over this Whistle

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Steve D



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Re: VIN number location

athelstan wrote:
.........just did not like Johnny Foreigner - typical. Twisted Evil


And I thought the Swiss were supposed to be neutral. Laughing Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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athelstan



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They are - they do not differentiate between types of Johnny Foreigner Wink

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Indeed they hate all foreigners even more than they hate the other Swiss who come from a different village/speak a different language (and they do hatte them too!). And maybe so would we if we had to live on barren mountains with not much sun and no-one but cows and the occasional goat (see Heidi) for company!
Actually I've always found the Swiss extremely friendly, although there is a tendency to rip you off when buying diesel on the motorway. I even have a Swiss friend with a sense of humour! But I've not been near the strange shadowy bits where it gets REALLY mountainous, snow all the year round, only speak Romansch etc! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
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FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
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athelstan



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Her Ladyship's family live in the "Rumantscha" speaking mountains.

Generally the Swiss do make foreign visitors very welcome as they feed into the nation's singular religion of praying to the God of Geld (money) into which every Swiss child is baptised before they can even walk.

Foreign residents are treated differently with deference grudgingly acquiesced on a linear scale commensurate with the fiscal contribution made to local and national taxes/fees. Net result: if you can fail Johnny Foreigner's vehicle on the MOT for any spurious reason (couldn't find the VIN chassis stamp) then do so and you'll earn twice the fee.

Tip: when motoring in Switzerland buy your fuel from the two major Swiss supermarkets' own fuel stations (not always attached to the actual food stores) Coop Pronto stations and Migros Oil.

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All I know about the Swiss is that they don't like filtering motorcyclists! Last year they did their damnest to block us when we were filtering through heavy traffic. Oh, and my mate went into a hotel that we found on our Tom tom app, tried to book a room for the night and then found out it was an actual brothel. Boy, was his face red when he walked out of the 'hotel'. Rolling with laughter Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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Brothel Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Filtering on a motorcycle is illegal - luckily you weren't noticed by the plod - first offence is CHF60 (GBP£40)
Having said that I see many local and foreign plate bikers (and I do) filter along in traffic jams Wink

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athelstan wrote:
Tip: when motoring in Switzerland buy your fuel from the two major Swiss supermarkets' own fuel stations (not always attached to the actual food stores) Coop Pronto stations and Migros Oil.


Bought fuel at the Migros near the Lazy Rancho campsite at Interlaken and that in itself was a challenge. You have to pay by card and there is only one card machine for all pumps tucked away between a couple of pumps. It seemed to work OK once I had found it and I didn't end up paying for someone elses fuel. Price was much cheaper than Italy! GONE - '07 TD4 GS manual Zermatt Silver
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Crazy how serial numbers on wheel fails the MOT over there.

Do you have to have both sets registered to the FL2, winter and summer etc

Can't see LR Doing all that paperwork for free either Rolling Eyes

Good luck Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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athelstan



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Both sets (18 & 17) are registered to her FL2 - both are LR Alloys.

Fortunately my new (16mths) latest official LR dealer is based in Liechtenstein and has responded superbly. Thumbs Up

Amongst underwriting the retest and providing documentary proof that the examiner acted incorrectly, the will also supply a set of 18" wheels for the purpose of the retest. The 130km round trip to the FL dealership is worth every one of those kilometres and will be the automatic choice for the purchase of her Ladyship's next Land Rover - if she behaves herself Wink

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Result! Thumbs Up
Hope all goes smoothly. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

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