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taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 |
Issus, when you have investigated the valve come back and let us know it is of interest, until that time please do not comment on the posts of others or reply in a provocative manner, this is a thread relating to the use of 2so in diesel, it is a thread discussing personal findings and anecdotes and until such time that scientific or peer reviewed evidence is brought forward, let's keep it as such and that also goes for those others involved on this thread. |
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24th Jun 2013 11:46 am |
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Adrian888 Member Since: 07 Apr 2013 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 174 |
There is a link i will try and find to the German Audi a2 forum which shows VERY convincing lab results of the benefits of using 2SO in diesel. I have used 2SO for about 20k miles in my A2 and at the last MOT it flew through the emmissions test, the tester was amazed at the readings. I will say the benefits in the FL2 are less noticable albeit there has been a noticable improvment in torque at low revs and an improvemnet in mpg (actual brim-to-brim not on board computer figures) however I also now use Ultimate/Vpower fuels so that may have some bearing. eh tu? |
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24th Jun 2013 11:59 am |
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DandyLandy Member Since: 23 Jun 2013 Location: Africa Posts: 20 |
The question remains: proponents can state claims of their perceived success and opponents can do the opposite. Photos of components can show the condition of said component yet that in itself is no proof that 2SO either did or did not result in that specific outcome. It is all too easy to jump to conclusions.
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24th Jun 2013 12:11 pm |
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Adrian888 Member Since: 07 Apr 2013 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 174 |
If we didn't take risks in life we would still be living in trees and never discovered penicillin etc. The photos I refer to are not of components out of engines but of injectors run in the lab with different combo's of diesel/2SO types and ratios. The comparisons are amazing and until I saw the photos an dread the data I too was somehwat dubious. eh tu? |
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24th Jun 2013 12:25 pm |
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npinks Member Since: 28 Jun 2007 Location: Ls25 Posts: 20090 |
Sorry no relation, I'm real and not a fictional character from a book written to try give people hope of an afterlife Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis |
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24th Jun 2013 12:46 pm |
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issus Member Since: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Northampton Posts: 25 |
I find your post puzzling - of course I and others may wish to comment on 2s related posts particularly on this thread. That is the point of the Forum - at least I hope it is. I am puzzled by your comments as they appear to be contradictory and as for posting in provocative manner I am at complete loss to understand where you are coming from on this. However by the same token I hope you apply the same House Rules to DandyLandy who by his own admission is abrasive! I hope that your post is from Moderators position that is "fair and open minded" with a willingness to appreciate both sides of the 2s discussion. regards Tony Up the Cobblers |
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24th Jun 2013 1:01 pm |
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cressus_66 Member Since: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Alexandria Posts: 9 |
I have with a C5 2.0 HDI(RHZ) a little more than 90 000 km with this 2SO, and a friend who has 1.5 dCI engine (Renault) has 207 000 km on Odometer only using this "blend"(2SO+fuel). Thanks! Life is very hard but...good news...she's running like hell |
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24th Jun 2013 1:17 pm |
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dr. tom Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Duesseldorf/NRW Posts: 15 |
That the addition of the homoeophatic dosis of 2SO will increase the HFRR-value of diesel is scientifically proven and a known fact. The HFRR measures the wear of moving components under Tribology aspects. Google for details or consult wikipedia.
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24th Jun 2013 2:03 pm |
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Atrix Member Since: 26 Jan 2010 Location: RIGA Posts: 83 |
Yes, indeed, where are these engine failures, which dooms-day proponents attribute to usage of 2sO? |
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24th Jun 2013 2:35 pm |
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npinks Member Since: 28 Jun 2007 Location: Ls25 Posts: 20090 |
the thing with this subject as stated you will not get definitive proof from either side of the fence, not at least until a lab does a test.
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24th Jun 2013 2:59 pm |
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768will Member Since: 08 Jan 2012 Location: South Devon Posts: 199 |
Don't think warranty is invalidated by using fuel additives. When my FL2 was in warranty the service (by main LR dealer) included the addition of Wynns 'Diesel System Cleaner'. I also bought some of this from an Audi dealer so presumably they were using it as well.
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24th Jun 2013 5:35 pm |
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Paul Member Since: 10 Feb 2007 Location: Ghent Posts: 417 |
Oil companies nor car manufacturers will ever admit the benefits of using 2-stroke oil as a diesel additive as the oil companies would admit there's something wrong with the diesel they sell and the car manufacturers would admit that their cars are not appropriate for the diesel that is actually on the market. Dr.Tom, thanks for your post. |
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24th Jun 2013 6:00 pm |
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npinks Member Since: 28 Jun 2007 Location: Ls25 Posts: 20090 |
768will, that's because the dealer put it in as an approved additive, not sure why you brought up Audi as I'm referring to LR warranty, after all it is a freelander forum Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis |
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24th Jun 2013 6:45 pm |
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Adrian888 Member Since: 07 Apr 2013 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 174 |
There is a rumour on some German forums one of the premium German premium brands use 2SO in their management and press cars to give their engines 'the edge' when being driven on press days etc. As stated above if you don't want to use it don't however for those of us who do and find benefits (whether subjective or objective) please do not criticise without evidence to support your claims. If you Google search the German A2 forum you will find the report I referred to earlier much of which is also copied into the UK A2OC forum. It is all there for you to look at and read and form your conclusions! eh tu? |
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24th Jun 2013 7:34 pm |
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