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nombie



Member Since: 08 Mar 2013
Location: Darlington
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37mpg pretty much constant, with mixed driving (2.2 TD4)

Post #175472 13th Mar 2013 9:51 pm
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nigel52



Member Since: 10 Mar 2013
Location: Farnham
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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

Ben Twillie wrote:
LRs do not return good MPG if driven in town environments ie heavy traffic. You only need short hold-ups or traffic crawls to totally blow your average MPG. When I lived down your way I was getting much lesss to the gallon than I do in the relatively low traffic environment of Suffolk.

That said, I can't agree with your comments about your E320 as I too have a Merc E320 CDI Sport and it always turns in a much better MPG than my SD4 - both in town and on long journeys.

You need to get on a motorway and drive a few hundred miles not exceeding 70mph. If you don't get betweeen 38 and 41 MPG it's either a problem or your driving style. But before you do that give it an Italian tune-up!


I should know but what is an Italian tuneup?

Post #175498 14th Mar 2013 9:01 am
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Infradig



Member Since: 18 Jan 2013
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An Italian tune up is to thrash it to within a millimetre of its life! The idea being that you blow all the cobwebs out ,possibly along with the valves!

I find this thread and the inconsistencies of people's figures very interesting , our Freelander was bought as an economy option as I'm sure were many other people's. if not we'd all have 3.2 petrols or in my case a Range Rover or Disco 3, so the argument that no one buys a Freelander for economy is frankly ludicrous . I find it unbelievable that a little 4 cylinder diesel with a 6 speed manual can only manage 32mpg over the same journeys,with the same driver that an equally heavy 3.0 V6 Automatic barge with similar frontal area( albeit with a drag coefficient of 0.36 vs 0.39 for Freel) manages a regular 37/38 mpg. The Chrysler is normally cruising 10 mph faster as well, in fact last week rushing for a ferry our Freelanders cruise control couldn't manage 100 without dropping out whenever we came to a hill( interestingly it still averaged 32mpg !) needless to say we missed the ferry,that wouldn't have happened in my car,although we might have made a 400 euro donation to Les Flics croissant fund. 2007 Freelander 2 2.2TD4 HSE manual (Hers)
2010 BMW 530D Estate (Mine)
2001 Mercedes CLK convertible (Hers)
That doesn't seem fair, time to find a 300Tdi
Range Rover for me !

Post #175503 14th Mar 2013 11:11 am
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JST



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France 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Narvik Black

If you are stupid enough to speed at 100mph on autoroutes I think you will find it will cost you a tad more than €400 nowadays. If you can't stump up the cash on the spot I think you might find your vehicle impounded. Go you Gendarmes!! Very Happy John
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Triumph Rocket 111 (sadly gone!)

Post #175507 14th Mar 2013 11:58 am
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Infradig



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I think 100 is pretty safe,especially at night. The vehicle confiscation thing only comes in at 50kmh over the limit which is about 110mph on the autoroute. I've always found Gendarmes pretty reasonable unless you take the mick and haven't had to pay up since 1988 returning from LeMans when they waited till they'd got a minibus full of us to drive to the nearest ATM. Then I was definitely taking the mickey,don't suppose the Union Jack be- decked Jag helped ! 2007 Freelander 2 2.2TD4 HSE manual (Hers)
2010 BMW 530D Estate (Mine)
2001 Mercedes CLK convertible (Hers)
That doesn't seem fair, time to find a 300Tdi
Range Rover for me !

Post #175521 14th Mar 2013 1:08 pm
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Ben Twillie



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

[quote="Infradig"]An Italian tune up is to thrash it to within a millimetre of its life! The idea being that you blow all the cobwebs out ,possibly along with the valves!

I just try to shift the cobwebs!

Post #175525 14th Mar 2013 2:16 pm
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Ninocass



Member Since: 14 Mar 2013
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It's worth noting that Metric/Imperial MPG will be different so comparing US to UK will be off.

Ill be happy with anything plus 30, I got this yesterday morning in my S5 when I hit a traffic jam a few minutes after leaving the house. Big Cry



At least the polar bears will be warm!

Post #175767 16th Mar 2013 10:53 am
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Kola's Kab



Member Since: 01 Mar 2013
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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e XS Manual Lago Grey

Hi

Wifey's return trip y'day showed an indicated 42.7mpg!!! 135m about 85m on motorway's or dual carriageways (lots of 75-80 mph on cruise control). Doing a phyical check by filling brim to brim shows calculated 39/40 mpg over 270miles, but there is an error factor as its hard to refill to the exact same level.

Even my short 10m round trip this morning to walk the dogs, with 2 cold starts still showed an indicated 32.5mpg, so well happy!!! Kola is the big solid black German Shepherd, Dobbie is.......a breed you've never heard of......yet;)

Post #175768 16th Mar 2013 11:12 am
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Steve D



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Brimmed mine last week and just refilled it today. I did 303 miles and it took 54 litres to brim it again. I make that 25.4mpg which is what I expect for lots of short local journeys with a few runs out. That's pretty close to what the onboard computer said too. I would expect more on a long motorway run. I've added 500ml of 2 stroke oil this fill up just to see if it makes any difference mpg wise. Wifey reckons it costs twice as much in fuel than what our TDI Golf did. Wait till she finds out it costs £270 to tax compared to £100! Well, you don't buy a 4X4 for economy unless you are changing to a FL2 from a Disco 3 or RR Snort, do you? Mr. Green Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Post #175947 17th Mar 2013 5:00 pm
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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

Kola's Kab wrote:
Hi

Wifey's return trip y'day showed an indicated 42.7mpg!!! 135m about 85m on motorway's or dual carriageways (lots of 75-80 mph on cruise control). Doing a phyical check by filling brim to brim shows calculated 39/40 mpg over 270miles, but there is an error factor as its hard to refill to the exact same level.

Even my short 10m round trip this morning to walk the dogs, with 2 cold starts still showed an indicated 32.5mpg, so well happy!!!


Followed the forum advice and did an Italian tune-up. So with three tank fills I have got the following:
29.86 mpg
27.68 mpg
And a trip from Farnham, Surrey to Manchester on Saturday and did 33.59 MPG

I will post the return trip figures when I do the next top up although the computer was telling me we did 38.2MPG

I never drove above 2,000 RPM or went above 72MPH on the Manchester trip so I guess one can improve on the 27-29MPG I was getting but one can hardly touch the acelerator and just Motorway driving with no stop/start. I giuess I will cancel my trip to the garage scheduled for this Tuesday.

Post #175971 17th Mar 2013 6:58 pm
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Kola's Kab



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e XS Manual Lago Grey

Hi Nige,

The cost of having an auto, maybe?? Wife reports that her jouney was more of less non stop except for a 5min+ queue at 'Blackcat roundabout' joining the A1 where the eco stop/start was very active and presumed effective! Kola is the big solid black German Shepherd, Dobbie is.......a breed you've never heard of......yet;)

Post #175976 17th Mar 2013 7:30 pm
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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

nigel52 wrote:
Kola's Kab wrote:
Hi

Wifey's return trip y'day showed an indicated 42.7mpg!!! 135m about 85m on motorway's or dual carriageways (lots of 75-80 mph on cruise control). Doing a phyical check by filling brim to brim shows calculated 39/40 mpg over 270miles, but there is an error factor as its hard to refill to the exact same level.

Even my short 10m round trip this morning to walk the dogs, with 2 cold starts still showed an indicated 32.5mpg, so well happy!!!


Followed the forum advice and did an Italian tune-up. So with three tank fills I have got the following:
29.86 mpg
27.68 mpg
And a trip from Farnham, Surrey to Manchester on Saturday and did 33.59 MPG

I will post the return trip figures when I do the next top up although the computer was telling me we did 38.2MPG

I never drove above 2,000 RPM or went above 72MPH on the Manchester trip so I guess one can improve on the 27-29MPG I was getting but one can hardly touch the acelerator and just Motorway driving with no stop/start. I giuess I will cancel my trip to the garage scheduled for this Tuesday.


LATEST UPDATE:

4.546 litres to a gallon
13/2/13 Mileage 7437 put in 44.71 litres
21/2/13 Mileage 7772 put in 51 litres 29.86 MPG
9/3/13 Mileage 8156 put in 63.06 litres 27.68 MPG
16/3/13 Mileage 8427 put in 36.78 litres 33.59 MPG
18/3/13 Mileage 8646 put in 30.09 litres 33.08 MPG

What is interesting that the trip computer showed 40.4MPG on the trip up versus real world measurement of topping up the tank brim to brim of 33.59MPG and on the way back down Manchester to Farnham trip computers howed 38.5MPG and actually it was 33.08.

These figures were driving at no more than 71 MPH taken from a GPS and never over 2,000RPM.

So still not convinced by other quotes of near the 40MPG figures.

Now have to decide whether I get my LR garage to check it ?

Post #176125 18th Mar 2013 9:47 pm
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wizking



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Indus Silver

Maybe this will answer your question about LR figures for mpg



According to studies backed by the department of energy, the average car will be at its advertised MPG at 55 mph. But as the speed increases:

- 3% less efficient at 60 mph
- 8% less efficient at 65 mph
- 17% less efficient at 70 mph
- 23% less efficient at 75 mph
- 28% less efficient at 80 mph

Post #176128 18th Mar 2013 9:58 pm
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nigel52



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Unnecessary quote removed


How does that fit in with Urban, Extra Urban and Combined figures?

Post #176144 19th Mar 2013 8:33 am
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Tea Gardens



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Australia 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 S Auto Indus Silver

! have a brand new TD4 first tank gave 850 kls for 57 litres which in MPG = 42.6 three quarters of this was highway driving using cruise. I really could not believe this from a new car. Where will it be once run in.

The man from Tea Gardens

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