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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

EYorkshire wrote:
If those figures are by the old way of doing it then there is definitely a problem Houston.


Dunkley201 and EYorkshire I have been around cars and MPG figures for 40 odd years so I am confident I have a problem and I definitely would only take real mileage and gallons used using 4.546 litres per gallon.

My original query was is this something others are seeing and if not (which I believe most are getting way better than I am) what should I do about it and are LR likely to do anything about it. I have only had the FL2 from a main dealer (Basingstoke) for a month.

I will be towing in France in 3 weeks time and these bad figures are before I have even started towing just normal motorway and dual carriageway driving.

Oh and yes I tried the 60MPH test and put it on cruise control to see what the figure would be and it will start at 40 but drops to lower 30's fairly quickly. The vehicle has only been used in normal mode so none of the off-road, sand, mud, snow, settings have been used yet.

Post #174915 10th Mar 2013 6:00 pm
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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

Kolas Kab - wow if I could only get 35-37MPG I would feel over the moon. Your figures are the best I ever got from my Merc E320 estate on a 1500 journey.

Post #174916 10th Mar 2013 6:05 pm
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dunkley201



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Nigel - straight back to the dealer! From the figures I have seen, the SD4 should be more economical than the early models (such as mine). Your fuel consumption is a little alarming to say the least. I could only guess at binding brakes or whatever. My consumption figures can be seen (& clicked on) below my sig - and 08 manuals are early doors compared to your model. 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

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wizking



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Indus Silver

My 61 plate SD4 has averaged 34.74mpg since getting it last April (about 8000 miles). The best was 42.70mpg on a 240 mile journey, and I have just covered 230 miles today with 39mpg. What you will find though is a drastic difference if you are just a little heavy footed. The SD4 is great but unforgiving on mpg if you use that power!!

Post #174935 10th Mar 2013 7:16 pm
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steve t



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MInes gone Censored over the last week or so,Down to 24/25 and lower in town (08 auto).As a rule its been 28/29 uptill as said the last week or so.Im just putting it down to the cold snap where in at the mo,Fingers crossed im right Sad

Post #174939 10th Mar 2013 7:30 pm
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EYorkshire



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Nigel, the problem now is how do you convince your dealer, unless it is black or white in their faces it's usually dismissed.
Is there anything mechanical like others have said, does it roll in neutral on very slight inclines at lights/junctions etc or does any binding keep it from rolling.
Ask for the EGR system to be checked and any other emissions control also, this would be my favourite.

Post #174963 11th Mar 2013 7:03 am
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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

I have not specifically tested rolling on a slight incline in neutral but will do so today. Thanks for the advice ref the dealer and EGR system.

I had wondered about remapping, chipping or 2 stroke oil as a viable solution although I would rather get it up to circa 35MPG first.

Post #174965 11th Mar 2013 7:47 am
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Ben Twillie



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

LRs do not return good MPG if driven in town environments ie heavy traffic. You only need short hold-ups or traffic crawls to totally blow your average MPG. When I lived down your way I was getting much lesss to the gallon than I do in the relatively low traffic environment of Suffolk.

That said, I can't agree with your comments about your E320 as I too have a Merc E320 CDI Sport and it always turns in a much better MPG than my SD4 - both in town and on long journeys.

You need to get on a motorway and drive a few hundred miles not exceeding 70mph. If you don't get betweeen 38 and 41 MPG it's either a problem or your driving style. But before you do that give it an Italian tune-up!

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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

Unnecessary quote removed


This is where I am having the problem:

Urban Extra Urban Combined
Merc E320 Estate 26.7 47.9 37.2
FL2 SD4 32.5 49.6 46.4

These are manufacturers figures. We all take at least 10% off these figures to get to 'real world' However, as you and I both agree the Merc will better the FL2 SD4 figures easily. But I am having a sense of humour problem over LR quoting much better figures than the Merc and yet I am getting with a light foot 27-29MPG real world figures.

It is all very well everyone defending the FL2 as a great car and forget the MPG but surely one does look at the specs when buying the vehicle and fuel is only get more expensive so at some stage FL2 owners who for whatever, reason are getting poor economy (some are getting fantastic MPG figures) will be finding it hard to justify such an expensive vehicle to own.

Bottom line: LR Marketing says the vehicle is more economical than a Merc E320 estate (2005) and real world says this is not true and personally I am seeing 27-29MPG.

Post #174976 11th Mar 2013 8:58 am
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AiiEEX



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

23 MPG here Embarassed
1000KM round trip to Margaret River. Mainly freeway driving. No traffic.

I reset my trip computer before I set off. Saw this thread and wondered what the MPG was.

Post #174983 11th Mar 2013 10:10 am
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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

Unnecessary quote removed
Please use the post reply rather than quote when answering the previous post, Thanks.


Are you diesel or petrol? If diesel 23MPG is pretty bad. To convert litres to gallons divide by 4.546

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nigel52



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

EYorkshire wrote:
Nigel, the problem now is how do you convince your dealer, unless it is black or white in their faces it's usually dismissed.
Is there anything mechanical like others have said, does it roll in neutral on very slight inclines at lights/junctions etc or does any binding keep it from rolling.
Ask for the EGR system to be checked and any other emissions control also, this would be my favourite.


Booked for the day with the dealer for Tuesday week -let's hope they find something.

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AiiEEX



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

Petrol mate.
10.2L/100 KMS

Post #174987 11th Mar 2013 10:44 am
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ad210358



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With the diesel Freelander if your after better economy you ideally need to keep the RPM below 2000 or there or thereabouts, go much above that and it slurps it. But at the end of the day if economy is towards the top of your list then a Land Rover is not for you.

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rchrdleigh



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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Baltic Blue

Combined fuel consumption for SD4 is 40.4. On a recent journey from Leicestershire to East Midlands I got 38.5 on the way there and 37.8 on the way back in works SD4. Mostly motorway sticking to the speed limit and slightly below.

Getting 27 - 29 mpg from an SD4 is better than I get from the work one but then it spends most of its time off road which eats fuel. In normal use I'd expect 32 - 35 mpg from an SD4 running on A and B roads with the odd bit of dual carriageway and 36 - 39 on the same roads in a TD4 manual.

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