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Who is using 2 Stroke Oil
Yes - and my FL is quieter
36%
 36%  [54]
Yes - But I cannot tell if my FL is quieter
10%
 10%  [15]
Yes - No, It is not quieter
2%
 2%  [3]
No - I am not using 2 Stroke oil
51%
 51%  [75]
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EYorkshire



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madmackie wrote:
thanks ey so the ratio is 330ml per full tank of fuel?


Well the ratio is 1:200 so about 330ml for a Freelander and if your tank is close to 80 litres then about 390ml. (All approximate figures before someone pulls me up on the maths) Laughing

I'm leaning towards using it myself once I get it at the right price, unfortunately I need the FC spec and I believe there are benefits as far as combustion is concerned.

Post #166814 10th Jan 2013 5:13 pm
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madmackie



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Is Fc spec is for vehicles with dpf if so is that semi synth or full

Post #166821 10th Jan 2013 5:42 pm
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EYorkshire



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The FC is for FL2's with a DPF like mine and is semi-synthetic. There is also a FD spec full synthetic but is not compatible with the DPF, besides it costing more.

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madmackie



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Thanks for the info just trying to gain more knowledge going to put some in mine tomorrow cheers pete Thumbs Up

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johnlr2



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EYorkshire wrote:
The FC is for FL2's with a DPF like mine and is semi-synthetic. There is also a FD spec full synthetic but is not compatible with the DPF, besides it costing more.


What detrimental effect does FD spec have vehicles with a DPF?

Post #166850 10th Jan 2013 9:22 pm
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npinks



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I think that's covered in the thread somewhere Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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johnlr2



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Maybe so,I havent come across it.FD semi synthetic has the same properties as FC but with greater detergency.Didnt think that would help block the DPF.Hence the query. Thumbs Up

Post #166856 10th Jan 2013 10:26 pm
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outlear



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Hi I have a 5 month old SE SD4 Auto. Does anybody know whether the fuel supplied in Australia, (I use Caltex Vortex Diesel) is a similar quality to that of Europe. I am thinking of adding 2 stroke, I am pretty sure I don't have a DPF and I notice the discussion re mineral and semi synthetic. If I used semi synthetic without a DPF would this cause a problem?

Post #166876 11th Jan 2013 3:20 am
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EYorkshire



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Throughout the thread we have had a few summary's, here's another.

To be clear, I am no expert on this and I don't know what camp I sit in yet, but I do believe there are some benefits so my answers are purely down to having read every post in this thread.
.... and, if my answers are wrong then it's someone else's fault Whistle

1) It is claimed in this thread that fully synthetic FD spec will block the DPF in time, yes it can have a lower 'ash' content than FC or be completely 'ashless', but it has an increased 'gumminess' that will adhere to high temperature surfaces such as the DPF.
2) FB spec is preferred in non DPF simply because it is a cheaper mineral oil and will do the job, but if that isn't available then FC spec semi synthetic oil is good also.
3) FB mineral oil spec 'ash' content is not low enough to use in a DPF machine, use FC spec.
4) It is widely known/claimed that 2SO helps combustion efficiency and helps stop carbon build up.
5) The jury is still out on it's pre-combustion lubrication benefits with the use of low sulphur fuel, such as fuel pump etc.
6) The ratio to use is 1:200, roughly 330ml for a full tank in a FL2.

One person claimed that his diesel engine now sounds like a petrol, I personally believe he suffered acute hearing loss and should be more worried about his health than his car.

Just try it and see for yourself, it will do no harm and may do some good.

Post #166881 11th Jan 2013 8:44 am
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johnlr2



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Good summary Thanks.
The warning for FD spec is for fully synthetic.I have some semi synthetic JASO FD which I would like to try.

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Ben Twillie



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The FD standard is for very high reving 2 stroke engines and contains additives for that purpose. The poster who put up the warning to say do not use it believes it will harm the DPF. Clearly it's your choice whether or not you decide to use it.

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wizking



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Went to get you some 2so today EY, but unfortunately tesco garage in Ipswich has upped the price to £8 a litre now. Sorry mate.

Post #167032 12th Jan 2013 6:34 pm
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EYorkshire



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Cheers my mate Thumbs Up
Never mind, I also looked in the local Tesco garages but could not find, our oil sponsor seems to be coming in the cheapest at the mo'.
I'll keep looking for a while longer, someone somewhere will have an offer soon Smile

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Screwed sell ryobi oil quite cheap as I bought some for my lawnmower a little while ago Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #167086 13th Jan 2013 11:21 am
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EYorkshire



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What are you trying to tell me Nick Confused Laughing
Must be that iPad

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