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wiggy



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mileage cheap v expensive fuel

I have a 07 plates TD4 with 51k on the clock.

I've noticed that if I fill up from empty with siupermarket cheap stuff then my gauge will read 420 ish miles in the tank till empty .... if i fill up with branded diesel plus expensive fuel then it'll say 540 miles in the tank till empty.... I've seen it over the last 4 -5 months. I tend to fill up month about with cheap v expensice diesel....

Am I being thick in thinking that expensive diesel gives you more projected MPG ????

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The projected range will be based on the avg mpg at the time of filling up, the trip computer doesn't know how much you paid at the pump Thumbs Up

I've noticed a 1.5mpg increase running on shell instead of Tesco's

Edited to correct my iPad spelling Embarassed


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wiggy



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npinks wrote:
The projected range will be based on the avg mpg at the time of filling up, the trip computer does know how much you paid at the pump Thumbs Up

I've noticed a 1.5mpg increase running on shell instead of Tesco's


I thought the car could pick up weather its cheap or expensive quality fuel???

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npinks



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I suppose how the car burns the diesel will have a small factor in it, but not immediately, only when it's instant mpg is higher over time

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npinks wrote:
The projected range will be based on the avg mpg at the time of filling up, the trip computer does know how much you paid at the pump Thumbs Up

I've noticed a 1.5mpg increase running on shell instead of Tesco's



How does the trip computer know then, does a little man pop his head out of the tank, says Censored that's dear fuel so you will go further Shocked

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It allso knows when it's traveling south ( downhill) as the average mpg is allways more than when travelling back north ( Uphill) Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

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The car does know what grade of fuel is being used but obviously not the price. I have ran V Power in mine constantly unless I get caught short, which is normally on holiday.

I noticed after putting in half a tank of cheap French supermarket stuff, the mpg dropped by about 4mpg and the car didnt drive as nice. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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Re: mileage cheap v expensive fuel

wiggy wrote:
... siupermarket cheap ... 420 ish miles ... branded diesel ... 540 miles

Even if branded fuel did give more mpg that's far too big a difference to be explained that way. I suspect a much simpler explanation. Expensive fuel is basically just less expensive fuel (no such thing as cheap fuel!) with additives. I suspect the lack of additives is allowing the fuel to froth up more, causing the pump to trip off before the tank is actually full. Thus, less fuel and less miles.

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If there is a case for one being different to another, I would put it down to the 'cetane number' where one is more efficient at combustion than the other requiring less throttle to do the same work.

There, a scientific answer from a budding Einstein, no need for anymore answers Laughing

EDIT: this got nothing to do with the original question, just why one may be better than the other in MPG.


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the car will monitor the combustion of the fuel, and more expensive fuel will most likely to have better combustion, but when you restart the car after filling up the fuel lines will have cheapo fuel in still and its only driving it that will allow the car to know its running marginally better and from there increase the range in the tank on the display

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As far as I know the range is calculated based on the average fuel economy over the last 10 minutes to an hour depending on the car, so if you drove carefully up to the garage then the available range would show more after a fill up than if you drove it like you stole it Smile

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Without going off topic, I just filled up at Shell Leamington this morning and put in 67.83 litres. The 'Range' still showed 8 miles before I decided to refuel, and given that it's only supposed to be a 68 litre tank, then something clearly isn't stacking up here. Surely you need some space between the tank and the Diesel that's in it? Or could it be a poorly calibrated Diesel Pump at the garage? Foraging near Gaydon....
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