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Ralphk



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England 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Zermatt Silver

Taztastic, how can sport mode be more economical on motorways when 5th gear is the top gear? Or am I wrong in thinking that sport mode has only 1st through 5th? Ralph
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Post #208442 22nd Nov 2013 11:23 pm
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scrimple



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Ipanema Sand

I have a manual, but isn't sport mode the one where you change the gears? If so, then it could be more economical by keeping to a lower gear but within range rather than being in a too high a gear and thus chucking fuel in but the engine being unable to produce the power as it is overloaded for the speed it is doing.  MY2014 SD4 XS
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Post #208448 23rd Nov 2013 1:46 am
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taztastic



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Just from experience from hundreds of trips up and down the M40, in sport mode over the distance from the M25 to Warwick services I would get 1-2 mpg better in sport mode?
The car does go into 6th gear in sport mode, maybe the fact it's accelerating more quickly in the power zone rather than labouring in a lower gear helps?

Post #208452 23rd Nov 2013 8:51 am
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Dartman the one



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The so called Sport Mode ( LR call it Command Shift) allows you to shift up early or hold the higher gear longer, it will down shift automatically, but certainly holds the lower gears longer, if it allows up shift at all automatically. I tend to shift before max revs so I have never found out. I use Command Shift when towing, it tends to stop that momentary gear drop on A roads coming out of bends as you increase power, it is also good at preventing kick down when accelerating on motorways and dual carriageways for that un-required kick in the butt after burner effect when only a more sedate change in speed is needed. I think that judicious use would give a better mpg. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Post #208459 23rd Nov 2013 10:42 am
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taztastic



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Sport mode and command shift are not the same thing.
Put the lever over into Sport mode and the box changes are different, holds gears longer and changes down sooner on deceleration, Command shift is only there when you override sport mode and control the changes yourself, the box, will of course, override you if the engine revs too high or too low.

Post #208460 23rd Nov 2013 10:46 am
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

but if you you command shift the gear stick stays in sport until flicked back, it can be left in command (lever left) and not in sport if you select a certain terrain response ( I forget) while lever is across to sport.
(on RRS anyway but most likely the same)

I discovered this during a week of long boring journeys fiddling with my stick and knob. Embarassed

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Post #208467 23rd Nov 2013 11:44 am
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taztastic



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If you select command shift it stays in command shift, if you want to revert to sport you have to select D then back into sport, on the Evoque if you select CS and dont use it the box will automatically drop back to sport but it doesn't happen on the FL2 unless the later MY13 cars have this?

Post #208470 23rd Nov 2013 12:00 pm
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

select command, dont change when you should and car reverts back to sport until level is returned to D. At work
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Post #208476 23rd Nov 2013 12:57 pm
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taztastic



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I will try it in a few minutes but don't think it does revert back, dropping Mrs T in town so will report back...

Post #208481 23rd Nov 2013 1:04 pm
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If in Command Shift, it will go back to Sport if you slow down and it feels you should have changed down, it will also if feels damage may be done to the engine or Transmission change up a gear when in Command Shift, putting you back into Sport Mode. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

Post #208483 23rd Nov 2013 1:23 pm
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taztastic



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I set off as normal, warmed up the car, then on a long straight put it in Sport Mode, lever to the left, then pushed forward and Command Shift was selected, 2nd Gear was found and displayed, drove a little and I manually selected 3rd gear and left it there, approached a mini roundabout an=d slowed to an almost stop, the box selected 2nd gear and remained there for quite some time, I was gently accelerating to see at what point it changed, the engine was at 4600 rpm Shocked and then it selected 3rd gear, slowing to a stop it selected 2nd and off we went, at no point did it revert back to Sport mode, only the Evoque will do that, that I have had experience of. Of course, the RRS and Disco may do it but they are different boxes so no comparison can be made.

Post #208485 23rd Nov 2013 2:14 pm
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

that might explain why you all though Id been to the pub Laughing fl2 is different (smaller gayer?) At work
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Post #208488 23rd Nov 2013 2:27 pm
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taztastic



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I'd like to see the mess left behind if someone called mine a gaylander, you know you want to come back to the fold, just do it CG, the old RRS you have must be looking a little dated.
Time to come back to the bright side, or trade up to the Full Fat Evoque aka new RRS. Laughing

Post #208491 23rd Nov 2013 2:33 pm
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

parked next to a new RRS it made my motor look terrible, but I was in the pickup Laughing Our lad goes to pre school at the local 'posh' school the car park there is like a range rover show room

saving up for a nearly new RRS next year, new prices are just stupid, also im skint after the poor harvest and investing heavily in renewable energy.

but a new motor will come courtesy of the renewable tarriff courtesy of you lot the energy consumers cheers Bow down


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Post #208496 23rd Nov 2013 3:17 pm
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taztastic



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They don't guzzle it though, the figures are surprisingly very good.
If you get Mrs CG one of those you'll never see it, you'll be skint too, she will be off to the posh shops in Knaresborough Laughing

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