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russben



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One bonus of having a registered gun in the house is if you are unlucky to be burgled, the Police come pretty quick knowing what you have locked in the cabinet! Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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dunroof



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russben wrote:
One bonus of having a registered gun in the house is if you are unlucky to be burgled, the Police come pretty quick knowing what you have locked in the cabinet!


Oh no they don't!

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npinks



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Fabarm Elos B

Anyone had dealings with one? Seen one today and quite like it, gets good reviews in the mags

Looks nice too Cool Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #94455 7th Mar 2011 8:07 pm
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twodogs



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The Elso B is a game gun, if you are shooting clays the Elso C
will be better for you.

A game spec gun is not ideal for shooting clays.

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npinks



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Mmm I thought the B & C were the same gun? C been better wood, that's how I read it earlier, they offer two models the Elos B AL and the Field, I assumed I thought field was a game gun and the other a sport

But looking at the website it says hunting line when the list opens up on the left

Seen a 28" for £500, about 15 months old on pigeonwatch forum but my dealer has a 30" for £750 as new

I think I need a rest this second hand gun stuff is getting hard work Embarassed Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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npinks



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Thanks twodogs, i decided against the Fabarm Elos as a gun, it is in deed a game gun Bow down

I have had a trip out to York and looked at what they had in there, and I am a browning, Miroku, Winchester man, the Berretas don't fit or feel as nice

Now its which model, I know the Browning Citori White Lightning fits, the Browning 525 Sporter fits too, this from using the two guns my family own

The nice chaps at York also said i had a good fit with the Miroku MK38 & MK70(?), and i also had a nice fit with the Winchester Select Energy Sporter Adjust

So i now know my off the shelf brands and its now down to how much I spend, I kept getting drawn back to the Winchester as i like the style of it and in time the adjustablity of the comb may be useful, Invector+ chokes too, but I would need to buy new as there are very few 2nd Hand about so i'm looking at £1300 (that's without haggling), New Miroku MK70 same price or a 2nd hand Miroku MK38/MK70 for £750+ (they only had a Trap gun in at this price)

I am now thinking, if i get my grant, to wait and get the gun i want, instead of a cheap gun till i can afford straight away, as i think I would be waisting my money, and in the meantime just borrow my family guns Very Happy Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #94524 8th Mar 2011 2:45 pm
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twodogs



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I'm not 100% but I think that the Citoir range came before the B325 and that was out in the very early 90's.

The B325 was a machine made gun from Japan ( the Miroku factory) but it had the hand finish chopper lump
barrels.

In around 96-97 the B425 came out, still made in Japan but now with the cheaper to manufacture mono bloc
barrel system ( Like Beretta's) then came the B525 which is the one that's out now.

A mate that I shoot game with started shooting clays last summer, he purchased a second hand Browning B325
grade 5 sporter in as new condition for £800 in a private sale. This gun must be around 20 years old, look like new and will last a life time.

Something like this would be a good first gun and will last. You can still find them in this condition if you
look hard.

You can tell when a Browning / Miroku was made by the two letters before the serial number located under the
top lever. Google dating a Browning.


One last point, when you next look at a gun, look at a 30"

Hope all this helps.

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npinks



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Thanks

Gives me other options to look at would the fit of a older b325 be the same as the newer b525? Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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twodogs



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Yes, I think Question

The gun is very much the same, just made in a cheaper way now.

Wood not quite as good, engraving not as nice and the barrels not
chopper lump.

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chicken george



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I might have to upgrade my gun collection to keep you commoners off my precious chickens Evil or Very Mad

(thats if you can afford the fuel to get to my place in the first place)

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dunroof



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CG do you have the chickesn that supplies Morrisons, Tescos and the like, you know 2 cooked for 6 quid deal?

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npinks



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Well I wasn't expecting the FAO to ring so soon Very Happy Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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dunroof



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Did you declare all your previous convictions? You do know if you were in prison more than 2 years, you are disqualified from getting one!

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mjn51



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Remember to offer the FEO/FAO tea and biscuits !
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