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druand



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Road Tax Better off than some.

Just looked at road tax figures for Southern Ireland when I was checking registering a southern car in UK.

171-190 = 630euros Most 2011 FL2
191-225 = 1,050 euros 2008 FL2 Auto
over 226 = 2,100 euros All Discos All FL2's (3) Gone
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FL2 GS Auto SD with heated leather, factory tints, alloy spare and a few other bits.

Post #94071 3rd Mar 2011 8:51 pm
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1STFREELANDER



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Wow, they look more like commercial vehicle rates. Just goes to prove there is always someone worse off than you. They have my sympathy, I feel we are going back to the early 1900's when only the very rich could afford motor cars.

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dunroof



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We are! The ConDems just haven't told us yet!

The Barnsley By Election Result

Labour took 60.8% of the vote, UKIP's Jane Collins 12.19%, the Conservatives' James Hockney 8.25%, the BNP's Enis Dalton 6.04%, Independent Tony Devoy 5.23% and the Liberal Democrats' Dominic Carman 4.18%.

Mr Carman lost his deposit as the party's share of the vote fell from 17.2% in the 2010 general election to 4.1%. He said: "The voters here in Barnsley have given me and the Liberal Democrats a kicking. We can take it."

And we arn't even a year into this government. I can see we will go like the middle eastern countries will go if we have to suffer another 4 years of this!

Rolling Eyes

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athelstan



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dunroof
A change of government will not require folks to take to the streets - it is easier than that:

It just requires the standing disaffected Lib-Dem MP's to cross the floor of the Commons for a vote of "No Confidence" to be called. Then, subject to all Labour, disaffected Lib-Dem and all other standing MP's of any shade voting against the Coalition and you have yourself a General Election in double quick time. September sounds about right for a jolly happy christmas.

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AndyC



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How much is road tax in the Uk for a FL2 Question

Just paid mine = ca. 375 Euro (which is bad enough) 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

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EYorkshire



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Cheaper than that Very Happy That works out about £322 in todays money.

If you buy new then we pay more for the first year and ranges from £155 - £300.
The next year and after it ranges from £155 - £200
Dependent upon if its TD4 manual / TD4 auto or SD4 auto

I believe the older ones range from £200 - £245, someone may correct me on this one

If you want to tax the 3.2l petrol then its £425 Shocked


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£235 for a manual without stop start
About 90 chickens in real terms or 0.6 tonnes of oilseed rape or even 1.2 tonnes of wheat or possibly 0.7 tonnes of chicken food.

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Past master



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chicken george wrote:
my post office loves my bartering system Laughing

You own a post office as well CG? You are some entrepreneur! Bow down Bow down Bow down

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Lukey Luke



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New car tax here in Belgium is a rip off, the thing here is, even if you buy a 2nd hand car, you still pay the new tax again. I think it is around $2000 euro for an auto FL2. Think you buy a 2nd hand car at the book price, then plus 2k to the goverment. I know we pay more in road tax for an old golf tdi 90bhp here than we do for our FL2 which is has UK plates.

Owning a car in the UK is cheap, buying a car, taxing it, insurance and servicing is more here in Belgium. Thinking about it, child care is the only thing cheaper here.
We have to pay to see a doctor, or going to A&E and there is no £6.20 fixed price for drugs. When you buy a house there is 15% tax you have to hand over in cash.

Long live England. I miss your low cost of living so much. But life here is better Mr. Green i just have a lot less cash Big Cry HSE, Auto, Colour - Yes

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Mona Geeza



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1STFREELANDER wrote:
They have my sympathy, I feel we are going back to the early 1900's when only the very rich could afford motor cars.


At this rate only the very very rich are going to be able to afford them again Laughing I was only wrong once and thats when I thought I was but wasnt.

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dunroof



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athelstan wrote:
dunroof
A change of government will not require folks to take to the streets - it is easier than that:

It just requires the standing disaffected Lib-Dem MP's to cross the floor of the Commons for a vote of "No Confidence" to be called. Then, subject to all Labour, disaffected Lib-Dem and all other standing MP's of any shade voting against the Coalition and you have yourself a General Election in double quick time. September sounds about right for a jolly happy christmas.


Yep, that way too, although I prefer the bloodshed method. The sight of the ConDems facing a firing squad is very appealing. Danny Alexander is particularly annoying as is Nick Cleg. I was reading Danny boys expenses, he buys Kettle Balsamic Crisps by the bucketload, I am surprised he's not like a house end and how come he gets to claim back subsidised House of Commons meals? I know if I go out to work, I have to take sandwiches or pay for food. It's appauling.

And, did you know George Osborne has never had a job ever? It was MP and then Chancellor, not that him and his multimillionaire MP pals need it. They wont be worried about Tax or fuel prices. It makes you sick.

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athelstan



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Yes, they are an invidious crew fit for only wiping each other's rectum.

And don't get me started on Osbourne & Little that well know (Kensington) but in actuality an off-shore interior design tax haven founded by the Chancellor's father. This quaint "Little Britain" establishment shop-fronts the perfectly legal tax avoidance schemes that ensures the amoral Chancellor personally contributes less to reducing the nation's deficit than anyone reading this post. His "boss" charms us with his "Big Society" where everyone should be helping (i.e. contributing) but fails to deliver on the congruence of the contribution, especially from within those Cameron has appointed and entrusted to deliver his big society.

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Past master



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Er, Hang on Athelstan. Don't you live in Switzerland??? (Place people go to avoid tax...) Confused

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athelstan



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Past master wrote:
Er, Hang on Athelstan. Don't you live in Switzerland??? (Place people go to avoid tax...) Confused


Past master
People don't come here to avoid taxation - just ask Phil Collins or a near neighbour Tina Turner. Compared to the sieve like personal taxation avoidance rules/schemes that proliferate in the UK it is very hard indeed to structure a personal taxation avoidance scheme here in CH that's legal.

What folks often misunderstand is that whilst direct taxation of income is relatively low in CH compared to the UK we have very high rates of cost of living, for example:

1: In the UK you pay no VAT on children's clothes or books or newpapaers or train tickets, or food. Here we do. In fact we pay VAT on almost everything you buy.
2: In the UK you have the NHS. Here for example I pay each month for our 3 member family ≈GBP683 per month in health insurance - plus - we have to pay the first ≈GBP1,250pa of any claim per person - and thereafter 10% of any additional health costs.
3: In the UK for example you do not pay tax pa on the market value of your vehicle and house. Here it is classified as an asset and depending where you live you pay "estate" tax per vehicle/house per year. Where I live this is ≈3%pa.
4: Etc Etc

However Corporations/Companies can take advantage of very low taxation regimes re capital gains. This is why due to lax UK corporate taxation laws Barclays recently paid into UK treasury a rate of ≈1% tax, and why last year Boots opened an office in Zug to circumvent UK corporation tax. They are not alone in doing this. For hard core Tories this is fair game because as Directors of these companies they benefit from these actions. That's Cameron's "Big Society". If your "Big" enough to cream off profits elsewhere (there are other global destinations more favourable than Switzerland) their (Tory) "Society" allows it.

In reality Past-master, individuals come here for the quality of life rather than taxation issues. Low crime rates, low rates of violence against the individual, clean(ish) streets, on time - not cancelled trains/busses/trams etc., and, a healthy alpine environment.

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dunroof



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Yep, know what you mean. when I spend time in the States, normal holiday health insurance wont cover it. The Health Care insurance prices start at 500 quid for basic cover for a family of mun, dad and 3 kids and goes up to over 1300 quid a month depending on the level of cover. You pay 35/50 quid per doctor consultation, pay so much for drugs depending on which illness or disease they treat, the list is endless. The price you quote and the conditions are roughly similar. People take the NHS for granted. Just be thankfull you dont have to pay because if you did very few OAP's or even middle income families would have the means to see a Doctor or be treated. It would certainly cost more than the price of a new Freelander if someone in your family had complications. Something to ponder on until the next election!

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