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Who is using 2 Stroke Oil
Yes - and my FL is quieter
36%
 36%  [54]
Yes - But I cannot tell if my FL is quieter
10%
 10%  [15]
Yes - No, It is not quieter
2%
 2%  [3]
No - I am not using 2 Stroke oil
51%
 51%  [75]
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npinks



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Quote:
yamaha-fan wrote:
One more information to the interested reader when buying 2-T oil: 

The "JASO" specification of 2-T oil means "Japan Automobile Standards Organisation" 
JASO MA = for 4-stroke motorbike engines 
JASO F = for 2-stroke motorbike engines 
JASO FA = standard 2-T oil 
JASO FB = low smoke 
JASO FC = lowest smoke 
For JASO F: the higher the letter behind the "F" the better the performance of the 2-T oil 

For Europe, the equivalent of JASO is ISO: 
ISO-L-EGB equals JASO F 
ISO-L-EGC equals JASO FB 
ISO-L-EGD equals JASO FC 
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npinks



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FB was fine unless you have a DPF, if you do then it's FC you'll need Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Many thanks for that quick answer, already used 1/3rd of the FB but wont take the chance with the rest. Offset your Carbon emissions by boycotting Baked Beans and all Green Vegitables.

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If you've still got your 2007 MY car like your little picture says you have, then you do not have a particulate filter so FB is OK for you.....Use it up (Or buy a moped Laughing )

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After having Mopeds for over 40 years as knockabout vehicles I am thinking of going back to one (Honda Zoomer)to drastically reduce the running costs of motoring, most of my journeys are around town nowadays.
Thanks for the info as I could not find any reference to particulate filter in the hand book. Offset your Carbon emissions by boycotting Baked Beans and all Green Vegitables.

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DG any sign of the eagerly awaited photos. Thumbs Up Don't put petrol in a diesel. They don't run well.

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The post from the temporary thread have now been merged Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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I've join this on page 33 - and have tried to read all posts but ended up skim reading!!

Does the addition of the 2SO have any affect on the Catalytic Converter? 2002 Honda VFR800
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not an official answer but but adding 2T is supposed to reduce emissions i believe, so i assume there will be less stuff to clog the cat Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Page 15, questioned and answered

yamaha-fan wrote:
Don't you worry, the addition of the recommended dosis of 2-T oil to the ulsd-diesel will NOT affect the diesel catalysator. No reports whatsoever on this issue!

YF
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Thanks npinks - couldn't see for looking...as they say Thumbs Up

I see some comments say that the mix of bio-diesel in current supplied is a good lube - does this mean adding the 2SO is not necessary? 2002 Honda VFR800
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I'll let somebody else answer that, as I don't want to voice my stance on this again Laughing Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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simont wrote:
Thanks npinks - couldn't see for looking...as they say Thumbs Up

I see some comments say that the mix of bio-diesel in current supplied is a good lube - does this mean adding the 2SO is not necessary?


Hi guys

sorry for the delays with the photos. I am currently shuttling between Switzerland and SA (leaving again for cold shores this weekend Sad ).

npinks and simont

as far as bio diesel is concerned, this stuff is seriously hygroscopic, i.e. it will absorb water from the humidity in the air, fuel tank etc. Chicken George is probably the most qualified to give experienced feedback on bio diesel, as he operates diesel machinery in UK conditions.

2sO will guarantee sufficient lubrication, however it cannot eradicate the negative impacts, water in diesel has on CRD component surfaces.

I trust that this will answer some of the concerns.

BTW I will be back in SA on 16th March and will be here until 6th May so there will be plenty time to bring on the long promised photographs. I just have to go and see that engineering shop but they are far from my place and time is at a premium for me at present. With kind regards
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Fill your tank up every night to prevent condensation inside it, this will prevent more trouble than using t2 oil.


the inside of the tank gets warm while driving due to diesel recirculating back from the engine, so as it cools it draws in air and moisture.


here endeth the lesson according to george Thumbs Up At work
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chicken george wrote:
Fill your tank up every night to prevent condensation inside it, this will prevent more trouble than using t2 oil.


the inside of the tank gets warm while driving due to diesel recirculating back from the engine, so as it cools it draws in air and moisture.


here endeth the lesson according to george Thumbs Up


Hi CG

that is fine for your vehicles. But what about the big tank we get the stuff from either at the depot or from the fuel stations. Rolling Eyes

Bio Diesel IS HYGROSCOPIC because it contains ethanol.

Tonight I will post a picture of a display board that shows the components from a 1st generation CRD system. From there you can draw your own conclusions, what happens, when the diesel has insufficient lubricity. Water is not a lubricant, it is a "rust accelerator" Wink With kind regards
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