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Who is using 2 Stroke Oil
Yes - and my FL is quieter
36%
 36%  [54]
Yes - But I cannot tell if my FL is quieter
10%
 10%  [15]
Yes - No, It is not quieter
2%
 2%  [3]
No - I am not using 2 Stroke oil
51%
 51%  [75]
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zone30



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What does it all mean????

Post #42446 28th May 2009 12:59 pm
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npinks



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it looks like bloke with a Citreon C5 is is giving Freelander 2 owners a load of figure, that change due to 2T in his citreon, which makes no sense to me either

Since OP Yam-Fan no longer owns a FL2 it might be better for Y-F to set up a help website as this thread seems to be attracting non FL2 owners with the findings getting out onto other car forums, these people might be waiting around for an answer that never comes and risking a 2T thats not suitable and ends in damaging their engines.

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Post #42448 28th May 2009 1:10 pm
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Well guys parameters show how work the injection system in HDI engine before and after using 2T, you can see injector, high pressure pomp... ( I remember I read at the beginning that your engine it is developed by PSA and Ford and have DPF=FAP... so are similar like my HDI engines this is why I posted here where I read about 2T.

In log you can see the correction for each injector ( max permissible it is 5mg/stroke ) and High pressure pomp values.

In time ( after 500-1000km) will see if the limits will change: if will be lowers ( 0 it is ideal ) then 2T it help, if no... bad luck and I will stop using this.

At this moment it is to soon to take a conclusion but I will monitor the engines and after 500-1000km when I will try to take a conclusion and keep you posted also if my FAP like or not the 2T oil.

At this moment after 30km my car engine work properly, no problems at all.

Luc right now testing 2T + diesel on 2 PSA engine 1.6HDI + FAP...

Post #42455 28th May 2009 3:19 pm
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Citroen_C5 wrote:
In time ( after 500-1000km) will see if the limits will change: if will be lowers ( 0 it is ideal ) then 2T it help, if no... bad luck and I will stop using this.

It's better to keep in mind that injector corrections are directly dependant of injectors status _AND_ cylinder status (compression).
So, if the compression of a certain cylinder is lower than others, then the correction for that cylinder will increase to compensate for lower efficaciousness and vice-versa.
So, in my opinion, the injector corrections are not a good reference for efficaciousness of 2T...
Just my $0.02


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Post #42461 28th May 2009 6:55 pm
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Paul



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It would be surprising if any differences would be noticeable after 500 - 1000 Km. A comparison after 50 000 - 100 000 Km would be interesting though.

Post #42462 28th May 2009 6:57 pm
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Hi all, first off thank you YF for all your hard work in the use of 2-stroke, i've not used it yet but will be as soon as my tank is empty, i have a ford Mondeo TDCI, 130

first, to all who are worried about using 2-stroke in with your fuel, take a look at the crap being put back into your engines by the EGR valve you will be shocked, i have taken off my EGR valve and my car runs great and better MPG, and less smoke when putting my foot down,

Second, to all who are worried about your CAT, well you don't need one its not a MOT requirement (not here in the UK) so take it off, (although i don't see how using 2-stroke will mess it up) i have and it runs better as there is no back pressure, so the turbo runs more freely,

Doing the all the above will give you slightly more power and better MPG it has for me, i was getting 39-40MPG all town driving, now i get 45-48MPG not bad for a few simple mods,

ALL Credit for the above mods all go to fordmondeo.org forum

As soon as i start using 2-stroke in with my fuel i will let you know of my out come, until then, safe and happy driving.

Post #42485 29th May 2009 11:29 am
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ouranos67



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I got a Tier III Perkins agricultural tractor and I wonder whether I could use red oil which contains 2000 ppm Sulfur. Could the 2-stroke oil do any good regarding red oil? Thanks in advance.

Post #43850 25th Jun 2009 5:59 am
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alex_pescaru



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If your 1106D-E66TA Perkins engine accepts fuel with 2000ppm sulphur, I believe that there is no need for adding 2-stroke oil.
2000ppm sulphur is more than enough to properly lubricate the internal parts of the fuel system.
But with that quantity of sulphur you should change for sure the engine oil more often.
You need to be sure that it is safe to use that kind of fuel. Look into the engine's specifications.

Post #43851 25th Jun 2009 6:25 am
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npinks, your suggestion that I should open my own web-site on the 2T-Oil subject is a good idea, but I do not have a web-site and I do not intend to open one for time reasons.
But I wish to say one last thing: using 2T-Oil (even in excessive dosis above the recommended 1:200 mix) will NEVER damage the engine, nor any other engine parts!
So do not worry - any liability question is most unlikely!
A German Mercedes-Forum has as on today reached 286 pages on the 2T-Oil subject with no end in sight.
No negative experience has been reported so far - and is also not expected, but the positive reports are overwhelming. Even with the known conservative Mercedes owners.

YF

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Post #44767 8th Jul 2009 2:09 pm
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Chris P



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I have been using 2T oil (fully synthetic) on my old Discovery 1 for several years now (since sulphur was minimized in diesel fuel) and I think that I saved my fuel pump as other people had to overhaul theirs (always speaking for old cars and of various brands). The dose I am using is only about 1:500 (just because I thought this is enough) and I can assure that I have not found any disadvantages except that it costs my a bit more every time I fill up my tank. When the warranty of my Freelander 2 expires, I will use 2T oil in its fill-ups as well.
Wink

Post #44775 8th Jul 2009 4:30 pm
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MikeC



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All,
I would be interested to hear weather any of our Australian members have tried Yamaha's method of adding 2 stroke to the fl2's Diesel....

Post #45393 19th Jul 2009 12:26 am
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AndyC



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Adding anything to your petrol will probably f Censored up the motor Shocked
If you do you will regret it Whistle Nobody with any sence would do such a thing if it was not reccomended by Land Rover - End of Story Thumbs Up

ps: YF did and now he drives a Merc - that should also tell you a thing or two Rolling Eyes 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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Post #45428 19th Jul 2009 8:25 pm
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Steuart64



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Quite correct Andy with regard to PETROL - as you state.

2 stroke is a lubricating combustible hydro-carbon and diesel is also combustible hydrocarbon.

I have been running my FL2 for over a year now with 2 stroke addition with no adverse effects only a smoother running engine and improved mpg.

I believe Yamaha Fan changed cars for other reasons not 2 stroke issues!

For info the British Cheiftan battle tank could run on all combustible hydrocarbons (including vegatable oils) with the exception of highly refined petrols.

I see a lot of adverse comment directed to Yamaha Fan but so far he has been the only one to nail his colours to the mast and fully state his qualification for his comments - Well done Yamaha Fan 07 RRS Java Black

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Post #45441 20th Jul 2009 7:20 am
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Paul



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Yamaha fan was - and as far as I know Wink - is a she Steuart64.

...but you're right Thumbs Up

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