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PRadd



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PRadd wrote:
I've never heard of a bedding cycle either or a need to bed in EPB pads - I'd expect them to work out of the box TBH.
As the post Ian highlighted says they can be applied in motion if need be - I guess that may bed them in if really needed.


Apologies - I was thinking of my other vehicle that has a separate caliper and pads for the parking brake Rolling Eyes

But as others have said I doubt a need to trigger any special mode for an MOT - my 2014 Dynamic with the EPB has never needed to for MOT. 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Manual Dynamic
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IanMetro wrote:
Still cant find an authoritative source for Bedding In Procedure for FL2.

This in TOPIX shows the message on p157 but not how to get there.
https://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/s...brakes.pdf

PARKBRAKE
BEDDING CYCLE
ACTIVE

A garage technician has requested a
bedding cycle.

If not required, an ignition reset will
cancel the function.


I dont know if that is a generic article in Topix or specific to a vehicle but judging by the pictures its not a FL2 they are describing. Jules

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Does the FFRR with EPB use the same system as the FL2 ??

If shoes are mentioned in the FFRR descriptions then I suggest its a different system as the FL2 EPB system only uses disk brake pads. Jules

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My thoughts:
I really cant see why you'd need a separate bedding-in procedure for EPB pads when they would get bedded-in as per the normal process for changing rear pads.


Surely the electric motors for the EPB readjust to the new position (due to the thicker new pads and disk) when you exit SERVICE MODE. Jules

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jules wrote:
IanMetro wrote:
Still cant find an authoritative source for Bedding In Procedure for FL2.

This in TOPIX shows the message on p157 but not how to get there.
https://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/s...brakes.pdf

PARKBRAKE
BEDDING CYCLE
ACTIVE

A garage technician has requested a
bedding cycle.

If not required, an ignition reset will
cancel the function.


I dont know if that is a generic article in Topix or specific to a vehicle but judging by the pictures its not a FL2 they are describing.


Range Rover / Disco probably but if it applies to those, it may be where the MoT tester has got the notion that it applies to all Land Rovers.

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All you need to know IMO

 Jules

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Interesting topic. The EPB operates a solenoid onto one end of the Brake Pads, The FFRR has rear Shoes that need bedding in. Using the FL2 foot brake beds the pads in. I have had it all apart, and its not the same as the D4 either, I think. The solenoids fit with two screws, and one retracts the screws when fitting new pads. So that's it folks, as Hughie Green said.

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ReggiePerrin wrote:


Range Rover / Disco probably but if it applies to those, it may be where the MoT tester has got the notion that it applies to all Land Rovers.


You are most likely correct. Jules

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After my failed attempts of finding what method has to be used for testing the FL2 EPB, I have been looking for the the instructions from the MOT Testers side of things.

I found this Video which explains the the different types of EPB and what methods are used to test them.

It does include how to set the 'Bedding Mode' but it is on a Disco.
Perhaps someone who has worked on a FL2 EPB could look at this video and tell us which system/method applies to us.

I note that modern systems will automatically go into 'Testing Mode' when the right dynamic conditions are experienced.

(Also I note that the complicated Traction/Stability Systems need everything working to be safe on the road, and therefore running with fuses drawn is quite hazardous)



I would have thought that it was the responsibility of the MOT Tester to find out how to do the test, and if he hasn't the right equipment then send you to the correct testing centre. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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Thanks Ian - very interesting.
The FL2 EPB is very similar to the last vehicle in the video and is a delightfully simple system compared to that of the Disco 3; the latter combining a EPB switch with a motorised cable system and, I presume, its own brake shoes and requires a special "bedding-in" mode to test the EPB to test separately from the ABS braking. (why so complex?)


From the description of the last vehicle the FL2 EPB should be easy to test and can be tested on each rear wheel one at a time. No special procedure required.

I love my FL2 even more. Very Happy Jules

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Thanks everyone for their comments.

From what you are saying there is no such thing as a bedding cycle for the Freelander 2 EPB.

I'll have to go and have a discussion with the tester. ( Living in a very remote rural area don't have the luxury of shopping around)

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Tell him its more Mondeo than Range Rover Laughing

The brake parts have the FoMoCo stamp


 Jules

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