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GWFBrown



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5 mph Auto Door Lock

HI.

My 5 mph auto door lock on the drivers door does not work - all other doors are fine.

All functions on all other doors are fine, its only the 5 mph auto lock that's the problem.

Can anyone help.

Regards.
Gordon.

Post #430179 17th Feb 2023 2:50 pm
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IanMetro



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If its only one door, I would think it's a sensor or switch problem on that door.
Have you tried all the other methods of locking/unlocking the doors, for example dash switches, for clues.

Are you sure that the door successfully locks with all other methods.

I would also suggest resetting system, although I don't think you can easily switch auto-lock on/off on early models.
This comes up if you google, but I am unsure it applies to FL2s.
https://www.yourmechanic.com/question/how-...%20system. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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Nodge68



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Re: 5 mph Auto Door Lock

GWFBrown wrote:
HI.

My 5 mph auto door lock on the drivers door does not work - all other doors are fine.

All functions on all other doors are fine, its only the 5 mph auto lock that's the problem.

Can anyone help.

Regards.
Gordon.


It's most likely the door actuator has worn out. Locking and unlocking a car unnecessarily is a waste of door lock motor life.

Mine wasn't enabled when I bought it, and I definitely wouldn't enable it. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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jules



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Not expensive or difficult to replace the 2 electric motors in each latch - just time consuming as it involves a lot of dismantling of the door.
Lots of info available here and YouTube Jules

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Re: 5 mph Auto Door Lock

Nodge68 wrote:


It's most likely the door actuator has worn out. Locking and unlocking a car unnecessarily is a waste of door lock motor life.

Mine wasn't enabled when I bought it, and I definitely wouldn't enable it.


After a teacher at my school having her laptop stolen from the back seat of her car via an unlocked rear door while stopped at a road junction by some scroat I think I’ll keep mine activated thanks. The same with only unlocking the drivers door rather than all of them. The experience of having the passenger door opened by an opportunist thief (happened to my mum in a ‘posh’ area of Bristol) led her to purposefully disable the electrical passenger door lock of her 2 door car!

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GWFBrown



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Good Morning Everyone.
Can anyone tell me how many little motors are in one door lock.
Can confirm that every other function of all doors work fine - only the 5 mph on driver door lock is inop.
Regards
Gordon.

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BossBob wrote:
Nodge68 wrote:


It's most likely the door actuator has worn out. Locking and unlocking a car unnecessarily is a waste of door lock motor life.

Mine wasn't enabled when I bought it, and I definitely wouldn't enable it.



After a teacher at my school having her laptop stolen from the back seat of her car via an unlocked rear door while stopped at a road junction by some scroat I think I’ll keep mine activated thanks. The same with only unlocking the drivers door rather than all of them. The experience of having the passenger door opened by an opportunist thief (happened to my mum in a ‘posh’ area of Bristol) led her to purposefully disable the electrical passenger door lock of her 2 door car!

Living in Cornwall, I don't need to worry about such things. If I drive to a dodgy area, I can lock the car when needed, but I definitely don't want the car to decide when that is.
GWFBrown wrote:
Good Morning Everyone.
Can anyone tell me how many little motors are in one door lock.
Can confirm that every other function of all doors work fine - only the 5 mph on driver door lock is inop.
Regards
Gordon.

There are 2 motors in the door lock assembly. One motor disconnects the external handle (this is what happens at 5 MPH), the other motor disconnects the interior release lever too, this motor is only activated when the vehicle is super-locked from the fob. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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BossBob



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Nobody would call the high street in Westbury on Trym a dodgy area so we’ll leave it at that!

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GWFBrown



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Hi
Thanks for all your help.
One last thing - So you are saying, that you can completely loose one of the 2 motors, run on one and only loose the 5 mph function on that door ?
Regards.
Gordon

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IanMetro



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Please explain what is not actually happening when the doors are auto locking. Is it both internal and external handles, and does the little internal lever move to 'lock' position.

On mine the drivers door reacts differently to other doors, because when I stop, although the little 'lock' door lever is in the locked position, it will still allow opening of door (and unlock all others), while other door internal door handles will not move until told to unlock by the driver's door opening, or other means.

The same happens if you use the button on the dashboard, that is, all door handles lock externally, but the internally handles freewheel --except for the internal driver's door handle which still remains engaged. If used the driver's handle will unlock the car.

It is important that you try as many modes as possible as I believe the CJB controls what happens to locking/alarm system, and may unlock (or refuse to lock) if it believes it is in a miss-lock or other error condition. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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GWFBrown



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Hi.
This is what happens :
When I unlock the car all is normal - all doors are unlocked - small lock levers are in unlock position.
When I drive away, at 5 mph the small lock levers with the exception of the drivers door lock.
The drivers door small lock lever can be locked manually while your driving, and you can hear it lock.
When you come to standstill you open the drivers door and all small lock levers unlock.
Regards.
Gordon

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IanMetro



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Is the outside driver's door handle locked when
in driving autolock mode
when locked via dashboard button
when locked via door locking switches
when single locked by fob
when double locked by fob

what state are the little levers on interior when in above.

Just trying to work out if the actuators, etc, are working, before you change anything.
Thanks

I am reading the description in the Repair Manual -- Door Lock Mechanism -- page 2308
Download here
file:///C:/Users/ianda/OneDrive/Documents/...6-2010.pdf FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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GWFBrown



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Good Morning.

Answers to your questions :

1) The outside driver's handle is unlocked when in driving auto lock mode.
2} The outside driver's handle is unlocked when using dashboard lock button.
3) When door locked manually via little lever, outside handle is locked.
4) When single locked by fob - All doors lock & unlock correctly.
5) When double locked by fob - Only the driver's door is locked, unlocked.

1) Little Levers - Driver's door lever unlocked.
2) Little Levers - Driver's door lever unlocked.
3) Little Levers - When locked manually, Driver's door is locked.
4) Little Levers - All door levers are locked.
5) Little Levers - Driver's door little lever acts correctly

My car is 2008XS

Thanks again for your help.

Regards.
Gordon.

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SYFL2



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Yes that’s all very good Gordon but what exactly happens when the little lever is pressed and the fob button is pressed once while indicating left and turning the radio on ? Mr. Green

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GWFBrown wrote:
Good Morning.

Answers to your questions :

1) The outside driver's handle is unlocked when in driving auto lock mode.
2} The outside driver's handle is unlocked when using dashboard lock button.
3) When door locked manually via little lever, outside handle is locked.
4) When single locked by fob - All doors lock & unlock correctly.
5) When double locked by fob - Only the driver's door is locked, unlocked.

1) Little Levers - Driver's door lever unlocked.
2) Little Levers - Driver's door lever unlocked.
3) Little Levers - When locked manually, Driver's door is locked.
4) Little Levers - All door levers are locked.
5) Little Levers - Driver's door little lever acts correctly

My car is 2008XS

Thanks again for your help.

Regards.
Gordon.


Thanks Gordon for checking all the modes.

I think that as you have proved that the actual physical locking system is working, but something is going wrong with the communication from the CJB or its inputs that help it decide when to send locking signal.

Unless anyone else has some sensible ideas, we need a bit of time to study your results and see what clues the repair manual give us. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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