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Andy131



Member Since: 09 Dec 2009
Location: Manchester
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Active travel is not a good - it is discriminatory at best and suicidal at worst.

We live in a country that rains 90% of the time (well it doe sin Manchester) - why would you walk or ride a bike.

I have a metal knee that means cycling is not an option - not enough articulation, and the other knee is riddled with arthritis so walking is as much fun as a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
No problem pay £520 PA road fund license and let the council blockade roads or narrow down dual carriageways for those who want to cycle. Those that don't want to cycle - force them. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Post #427143 23rd Nov 2022 9:35 am
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trw999



Member Since: 04 Oct 2021
Location: Essex/Herts Border
Posts: 97

England 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Mm. I'm not feeling that smug, with my i6, honest! After all, I do pay full Vehicle Excise Tax on it.

I guess i6 values will go up now. They only sold 564 here in the UK.

Tim Tim

Freelander 2 HSE i6 Stornoway Grey with Alpaca & Tundra interior
Driven many miles in:
2 FL2s
1 Range Rover P38
4 Range Rover Classics
Many military LWB & 1/2 ton Lightweight Series IIA & III

Post #427179 24th Nov 2022 12:35 pm
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axle



Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: South Yorkshire.
Posts: 1053

England 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Santorini Black

Thought it was 484 Common sense isn't very common.
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Post #427185 24th Nov 2022 2:13 pm
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trw999



Member Since: 04 Oct 2021
Location: Essex/Herts Border
Posts: 97

England 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Axle, that is just the HSE variant.

Here's the breakdown:

485 HSE
2 HST
45 SE
25 XS
7 GS Tim

Freelander 2 HSE i6 Stornoway Grey with Alpaca & Tundra interior
Driven many miles in:
2 FL2s
1 Range Rover P38
4 Range Rover Classics
Many military LWB & 1/2 ton Lightweight Series IIA & III

Post #427200 24th Nov 2022 4:26 pm
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NoDo$h



Member Since: 27 May 2008
Location: fings go booooom.
Posts: 490

England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

Hence when ads say "rare HST" the reality is "Rare HST because nobody bought this spec" Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Post #427206 24th Nov 2022 4:43 pm
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IanMetro



Member Since: 11 Sep 2017
Location: Somerset BS21
Posts: 3107

United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

BossBob wrote:
Even better, the only diversion route for the Avonmouth Bridge wil put you into the ULEZ deliberately. They were unable to justify the cost of setting it all up unless they included the Cumberland Basin in the scheme which happens to be the most westerly route for none motorway traffic across the Avon not including Brunel’s masterpiece, the Clifton Suspension Bridge which doesn’t do heavy traffic.


BossBob is right but it seems that the Zone Cameras will be turned off on a specific route to allow you to avoid fines.

So, in case you are diverted on your way to your holidays, I have linked to the instructions, so you can memorise them.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/some...5c714d6d56

There may be a slight problem, I am not sure as this diversion is via an already heavily used and congested route, and although I grew up in Bristol, I do not fully understand the route (after the Portway) and would most likely get caught by some camera that was not switched off.

PS if you come off the M5 motorway and don't fancy getting stuck in Bristol, there is a good choice of even worst hold ups in the local lanes and villages. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #427213 24th Nov 2022 6:45 pm
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BossBob



Member Since: 30 Sep 2010
Location: Bristol
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3 or 4 choices. The Clannage and Roundham Hill to Gordano. Clarken Coombe to Clevedon. A370 Long Ashton bypass to Weston-Super-Mud (sorry Mare). A38 to Highbridge. There are few passing places on any of these routes and they all go through villages with low speed limits and all have money machines and camera van parking spots.
Yes, the Portway and Cumberland Basin are heavily used and much more like a car park. I’ve had walkers pass me and disappear up the road never to be overtaken, the traffic move so slowly. It’s nice in the Autumn though as it passes through the Avon Gorge and the colours of the woods change daily.
If you feel like taking the M4/M32 just be aware that the Bristol end of the M32 puts you into the ULEZ and that Bristol never finished the outer circuit road properly so it dumps you on the A4 between Brislington and Keynsham and the route to the A38 south is pretty congested most of the time.

Post #427219 24th Nov 2022 10:20 pm
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axle



Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
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England 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Santorini Black

trw999 wrote:
Axle, that is just the HSE variant.


Did not know that, thanks. Thumbs Up Common sense isn't very common.
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Post #427226 25th Nov 2022 7:06 am
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BossBob



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Location: Bristol
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It’s official!
https://www.london.gov.uk/programmes-strat...lez-london

Post #427241 25th Nov 2022 2:52 pm
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Sidthecat



Member Since: 10 Sep 2017
Location: Sarf-East London-sur-Mer
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As expected, after a very extensive public consultation of just nine weeks the Mayors proposals are to be made official. Although I filled out the online consultation I don’t recall receiving any notification about it, just an email from a colleague at work. In the circumstances not sure exactly how many people would have even been aware of said consultation.
So a scrappage scheme is to be introduced. Is it any help to me? Sole trader - no. Micro business - no. Charity - no. Disabled - no. Lower income (unlikely to include retired people) - so assume no.
Screwed - looks like it

Update - They’ve just said on local news that 60% of those that responded to the consultation were against the expansion plans - so that’s how democracy works Rolling with laughter

Post #427242 25th Nov 2022 4:28 pm
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Bobupndown



Member Since: 26 Dec 2014
Location: Upside down behind the TV!
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A lot of people are going to have to sell their perfectly good older cars - diesel Freelander 2s included - in order to buy something they can drive toll free.
I'd be livid if I lived or travelled in the affected area. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #427263 26th Nov 2022 8:28 am
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BossBob



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Don’t offer to drop off or pickup anyone from Heathrow either as that is included in the ULEZ!

Post #427272 26th Nov 2022 2:52 pm
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Just a driver



Member Since: 29 Nov 2021
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There will soon be a setting on sat nav avoid emission zones

Post #427279 26th Nov 2022 3:51 pm
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Farmer Chalk



Member Since: 07 Jul 2016
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Here everyone..
if you own a Freelander please sign this petition!

https://chng.it/J4VpXbzt7z

Post #427294 26th Nov 2022 8:32 pm
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Boxbrownie



Member Since: 17 Mar 2019
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Just a driver wrote:
There will soon be a setting on sat nav avoid emission zones

Almost all have the option to avoid toll roads, they may be included on updates. Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Post #427309 27th Nov 2022 2:51 pm
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