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john doddy



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quoted fuel consumption figures

i was just looking on autotrader at fl2 prices ; with autotrader you can get running costs ; the quoted fuel consumption figures are pure fiction ; how an earth Land Rover can get away with it ; they are way off the mark

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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

Manufacturers use a rolling road to measure fuel consumption, which obviously doesn't have hills or wind resistance. Wink

What do they quote for MPG, as I get close to the combined cycle listed in my handbook. Very Happy Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
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jules



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Its not just JLR -its all manufactures. These figures are based on standardised tests designed by the testing organisations not the manufacturer. Its not just about MPG its also about pollution (CO2 and NOx)

The tests put the engine through different simulated driving scenarios on a static test bed. They are not really designed to represent real world driving - that varies so much its impossible to cover that in a few test scenarios.

Some unscrupulous car makers (VW, Audi, Porsche, Skoda, Seat, & Mercedes) have in the past deliberately engineered their cars to perform better under the tests than in real life - they have faced huge fines as a result + more because their cars are much more polluting than customers were lead to believe (especially NOx).

I guess the manufacturers work with the testing organisations in designing the comparative tests and as there is no laws to simulate a "boy racer" etc they produce tests scenarios which show the vehicles in the best light. Jules

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GundogSD4



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The only way I could achieve the MPG LR say my FL2 should do would be to get out and push it Rolling Eyes

36 MPG at best on a steady run, 30-32 local driving. not great but it is a 2.5 tonne 4X4.

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tenet



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This is an interesting site:

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/real-mpg/ MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

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GundogSD4



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As I said 30-32 real world MPG.

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mcdiejdh



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I drive gentle but get around 43-46 mpg according to the dashboard. Most of my driving is motorway based and cruise along at 60 ish.

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dorsetfreelander



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I believe that when a manufacturer measures engine HP and torque they do it on a bench with a dynamometer and with no alternator or aircon or gearbox or anything else that isn't necessary to make it go. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
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Post #399107 30th Oct 2020 5:24 pm
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Dartman the one



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BHP is normally quoted at the flywheel, torque is somewhat different as it can increase due to gearing but hopefully it is at the flywheel then with an auto in low gear it is much higher at the wheels my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Sidthecat



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mcdiejdh wrote:
I drive gentle but get around 43-46 mpg according to the dashboard. Most of my driving is motorway based and cruise along at 60 ish.


Think I'll have to change my dashboard for one that you've got Rolling with laughter

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jules



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GundogSD4 wrote:
The only way I could achieve the MPG LR say my FL2 should do would be to get out and push it Rolling Eyes

36 MPG at best on a steady run, 30-32 local driving. not great but it is a 2.5 tonne 4X4.


Actually the FL2 kerb weight is only around 1800kg

The 2500kg is its gross vehicle weight (ie the maximum it is allowed to weigh fully loaded)

We get 34mpg pootling around our home area. Cruising through the miles of roadworks on the M6 at 50mph I got 42MPG.

I find as soon as I go over 2000rpm the fuel consumption goes way up. Jules

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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

I manage to get 7.8L/100km (36.2 mpg) with a petrol engine with a 500kg payload, the spare wheel, awning & other stuff in the roof, wind deflectors & mud flaps.

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But I am using some naughty tricks some manufacturers would be proud of. A tailwind across the Nullarbor!

If one is worried about fuel economy, you are driving the wrong car. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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devondave



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Over the almost 10 years I have averaged about 39mpg. Quite happy with that Smile

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jules



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thats very good. Jules

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axle



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England 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Santorini Black

cruising along the motorway i get 28mpg, around town 18, if i floor it about 9. Common sense isn't very common.
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