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Burt



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slippery slipway settings

Scenario - the other day I was launching my boat. It weighs about 800kg plus it's trailer, both attached to the LR. I was on a slipway which was covered in green slime, so much so that I couldn't stand up on it without sliding into the water unless I held on to the landie. Launching wasn't too bad, but recovering was stressful due to the slipperiness of the slope - there was no traction between the tyres and tarmac. Eventually I had to get a backup tow from a tractor to avoid sliding off the edge and into the drink.

So my question is simple - what's the best setting (sand, mud, grass, DSC on / off etc) for this situation?

And yes, I know proper offroad tyres would have helped, as would a higher tide, "proper" landrover, crane, skyhook, etc etc...

Post #310203 2nd Nov 2016 8:48 pm
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Rimini HSE



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Grass/snow I suspect, and as you suggest possibly coarser tyres

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Yorky Bob



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Defiantly a case of DSC being on then -Daft Silly C Censored Rolling with laughter FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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DSC off
Command shift and you'll be in 2nd gear
Rev steadily and do not back off if a wheel spins, the Terrain response will kick in and take over getting drive to the other wheels, if you back off it will not do its stuff correctly, the magic happens around 1800 rpm from memory. Thumbs Up

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Yorky Bob



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At 1800 rpm in second gear my manual would have a burnt out the clutch I guess. Had they kept building them for another year I would have had that auto. Robbed. Big Cry FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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Post #310207 2nd Nov 2016 9:45 pm
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Mudstuck



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Off road tyres would have been no better and probably offered less traction

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axle



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agree with Mudstuck, doesn't matter what gear you were in or what setting you use if the tyres can't get a grip.
I found one of the worst surfaces when off roading was wet grass. Common sense isn't very common.
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I'm sorry but this is incorrect!
Would only be correct if the car from stationary slide backwards into the water......therefore there is some traction and being in the correct setting as Taz pointed out that allows some wheel spin so that the terrain response can redirect power to wheels which are not slipping. It's the basis behind the whole system and DSC would be beneficial to be turned off as later models tell you on the driver configure screen. MY15
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Lightwater



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Sharp Sand.

Put it in front of the tyres, the same as they do with trains, it will do the trick. Chuck a few kgs in a bag as ballast in the boat & use it for traction if needed. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Lightwater



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axle wrote:
agree with Mudstuck, doesn't matter what gear you were in or what setting you use if the tyres can't get a grip.
I found one of the worst surfaces when off roading was wet grass.

Outback Australian roads, went off the road a few times, they were like a bar of wet soap on the shower floor, dangerous & asking for trouble!. A couple of times I had stopped but slid off the side of the road due to the camber of about 2 degrees. Nothing one could do until you hit the scrub to get some grip to get yourself back onto the road. Luckily there is a very wide area of cleared ground for skidding off the sides of the roads just for these circumstances. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Lightwater



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Not even a boat ramp!

 Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Mudstuck



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That's 130mph tyres for you,mine would walk across that without spinning a wheel but I wouldn't do 130mph on my tyres even if a f2 could do that
Horse's for courses😉

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npinks



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Sometimes the launching slip can be just too slippy, no TR setting can help when there is no traction at all

That's why you find tractors there to help Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Mudstuck wrote:
That's 130mph tyres for you,mine would walk across that without spinning a wheel but I wouldn't do 130mph on my tyres even if a f2 could do that
Horse's for courses😉

The SD4 is rated at 130mph, and mine did that (indicated) when new. Latterly it was less keen, but I think the EGR was beginning to stick.
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When launching from a trailer, I park quite high up the slipway
I lower the boat bown to the water with a rope from trailer to tow bar 2008 xs
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