[quote="Natwest"][quote="Badger1970"]

Natwest wrote:

Taz,
Freelander is no longer in production

Returning to the question asked, I'm waiting for:

- the higher-powered Ingenium engine (a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned)
- a 5 seat option
- a full size spare

If/when that lot comes available, I'll probably start talking numbers. Until then, nope.

One of the DS forum members, ordered the eD4 ingenium engine, expected in the Netherlands around September, has now been told to expect delivery January 2016. The Jag and Evoque are taking priority, hopefully we should see the ingenium engine the end of the year. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Yup.

Would probably give them 12 months to sort out any early niggles, anyway.

My Fl2 is still going strong after 7 years and 77k, so there's no hurry...

Seems harsh to me that those ppl wanting to buy a DS with an Ingenium engine for £30-£45k are at the bottom of the JLR pecking order in favour of even more exclusive Jags and Ewokes.

"Know your place" would seem a good marketing strap-line!  Life is not a dress rehearsal!

Given the poll percentages, with the DS being so 'unpopular' as a replacement, how about we drop all these unnecessary threads about it? 2011 SD4 HSE Auto
(Previously 2007 TD4 XS Manual)

going to test drive a BMW X3 soon, though may hold off until the DS arrives with the new engine.
My current FL still has a few months warranty remaining.... 

How about those who still favour FL2 getting together under the 'Bulk Buys' section and getting some from Pune?  One Discovery, gone
Now on third Freelander 2
2013 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

vanoord wrote:

Returning to the question asked, I'm waiting for:

- the higher-powered Ingenium engine (a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned)
- a 5 seat option
- a full size spare

If/when that lot comes available, I'll probably start talking numbers. Until then, nope.

agree, me to.

druand wrote:

Add "might consider when 5 seat version with new engine and spare wheel option is available" to poll.

My position at moment as I am involved as official at motorsport events and cover many miles off road at weekends. Often have 2 spare with me.

I've finally seen a Discovery Sport in person over here. It seems clear that this is a Freelander2/LR2 replacement. A lot bigger than the Evoque parked next to it. Base models here are apparently going to be the same price! That is new. LR2's here were always $6,000 less than a base Evoque.

I actually like the Discovery Sport styling. The spare missing is certainly an issue for us though. We also own a D3 however. Will likely wait until the new engines arrive before looking at it though. By then they should be more readily available...and the Evoque discounts will be at an all time high.

Am liking the idea of a longer cargo area, more flexible seating, better off road capability, better on road handling, updated tech, etc. Pricing here has gone up about $8,000 across the board for a base/loaded model range. Similar to a BMW X3, Audi Q5, Lexus RX shoe or Mercedes Benz GLK. None of those are really a Land Rover however.

RichP wrote:

I think the Discovery replacement is going to be very similar.

Not sure if serious!

better off road capability?
Approach, breakover, and departure angles are all worse than in the FL2...

RichP wrote:

I think the Discovery replacement is going to be very similar.

Not sure if serious! [/quote]

By similar I meant, the rounded shape, lower rear end, etc. not size, just the way the styling is going. I have seen the prototype, this is the way JLR are going, for fuel efficiency, fashion, etc.
Not meant as a negative statement, just a comment.

submarine wrote:

better off road capability?
Approach, breakover, and departure angles are all worse than in the FL2...

Call me a victim of LR video marketing then! You are absolutely correct re: the geometry!

Still, it the DS does also have some advantages...
Increased wading depth.
Longer wheelbase.
Newer Gen Terrain response system.
Increased towing (vs. my 2010 I6 petrol model.)
Lighter weight.
Lower in height.
More flexible cargo capacity.
Larger back seating area.

Squeezing in those 3rd row seats required some compromise, no doubt.  Wait...you get 17in steel wheel options, diesel engines, manual transmissions, cloth seats, optional sunroofs and G4 kit!

RichP wrote:

RichP wrote:

I think the Discovery replacement is going to be very similar.

Not sure if serious!

By similar I meant, the rounded shape, lower rear end, etc. not size, just the way the styling is going. I have seen the prototype, this is the way JLR are going, for fuel efficiency, fashion, etc.
Not meant as a negative statement, just a comment.[/quote]

Ah, I see now! Makes sense. Our current D3/LR3 is rather narrow by USA standards, which we quite like. Still, it is tall overall on the outside, but not so large by comparison on the inside. Like the newer Evoque vs. older LR2, I assumed they'd fix that issue. Hopefully LR will also fix that rear door plastic tab that sticks out and scrapes the car next to it (the LR2!) in the garage.

Thanks for your response.  Wait...you get 17in steel wheel options, diesel engines, manual transmissions, cloth seats, optional sunroofs and G4 kit!