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dorsetfreelander



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Whilst at the LR dealers yesterday I took a couple of photos underneath the DS sport. The plastic underbody protection doesn't look up to much.





Post #253523 17th Feb 2015 9:35 am
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Kolar



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Yes indeed, I went to a LandRover dealer last weekend and have become disillusioned with the whole brand. What I saw were vastly overpriced cars which in my experience are pretty unreliable and the new ones are not as capable as the adverts suggest off road. Also interesting that the warranty period is still only three years whilst a lot of cars are offering 5 or 7 year 100kmiles.

I couldn't see why anyone would pay £50k for an Evoque with auto and leather seats or buy a DS for £40k upwards. OK if you want a Chelsea tractor I suppose and want to show off to the neighbours. I only hope that the baby Freelander and Defender replacement can save the day in a year or two otherwise I will be looking a a Jeep or Japanese car next time.

Post #253525 17th Feb 2015 9:48 am
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Number of people who will occasionally need a couple of extra seats in the back: quite a few

Number of people who will need serious off-road underbody protection: not very many

Post #253533 17th Feb 2015 10:53 am
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pporocki



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I haven't problems with Disco Sport any longer Smile
I've just ordered new Freelander.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/post253585.html

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Post #253587 17th Feb 2015 5:38 pm
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Is that a metal fuel tank, or shinyplastic?

Post #253655 17th Feb 2015 10:03 pm
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IZON



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IS there a FL2 | DS side by side picure where the FL2 has no body kit or other exterior "upgrades"? Very Happy

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Post #253675 18th Feb 2015 8:00 am
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pporocki



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Quote:

IS there a FL2 | DS side by side picure where the FL2 has no body kit or other exterior "upgrades"? Very Happy


I had uploaded one, there it is:

Click image to enlarge


As I mentioned front car size is very similar.
At the front and at the rear there are similar.
The most difference is side view (lower roof line in DS).
I am surprised about how different driving position is.
Please notice that FL2 is located a little farer to the photographer (me).
In the DS you are unable to see all bonnet when driving.

I will upload the second photo later.


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Post #253687 18th Feb 2015 10:02 am
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pporocki



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Rear view

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Please notice:
- no rear bumper, more boot space but more damages with a little impact
- smaller mirrors, like in a Evoque, but there are still larger than in the other cars
- departure angle is similar but looks like rear bumper is located lower above the ground
- much lower ride in second row seats

Disclaimer: My Freel2 is very dirty and lost one reflector Smile.

Post #253689 18th Feb 2015 10:22 am
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Went into a dealers today to have a more in-depth look at DS.
What I liked where the grab handles to close the door (I really don't like the ones on FL2) , the handle to open the door is nice too, the info system works nice and quickly. Materials used on the dash and door (ford like).i like the electric opening/closing of the tailgate.

Things that are iffy .. The sat nav is a bit difficult to navigate around (no pun intended) , the arm rest suits the driving postion (too low for me) but it's all or nothing , no hight adjustment & there is only one , my wife never uses the arm rest even as a passenger .

Things I don't like .. Driving postion is too low (makes the car feel bigger than it is) , I can't stand under the tailgate without stooping quite a bit (salesman said that's as much as it opens)

The car I sat in was £42k , tbh I can't see that kind of money in the car. Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!

Post #253700 18th Feb 2015 11:12 am
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pporocki



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BTW. I saw Mercedes GLK a few days ago and looks like space under opened tailgate (at the center) is even higher than in FL2. I am not sure about Disco Sport but as far as I remember it tailgate opening level was lower than in FL2.

Post #253705 18th Feb 2015 11:20 am
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IZON



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Dzięki! to pporockie

Post #253716 18th Feb 2015 11:46 am
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dorsetfreelander



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So what do we know about the similarities between FL2 and DS mechanicals, same engine, gearbox, haldex etc ? Anyone have an under bonnet view?

Post #253729 18th Feb 2015 1:04 pm
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dorsetfreelander



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Purplemadboy wrote:

The car I sat in was £42k , tbh I can't see that kind of money in the car.


I currently have a £50k Evoque auto SD4 courtesy car sitting on the drive and I can't believe that anyone would spend that sort of money on it.

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dorsetfreelander wrote:
So what do we know about the similarities between FL2 and DS mechanicals, same engine, gearbox, haldex etc ?

Off the top of my head:

* Platform is the Evoque's LR-MS, which is a re-work of the FL2's Ford EUCD platform. The only major change I'm aware of is the redesigned rear suspension, done to allow space for the third row of seats.

* Engines are the same as the FL2/Evoque - Ford/Peugeot 2.2 litre diesel and Ford 2 litre turbo petrol. Ingenium coming, of course.

* Gearboxes are the same as the Evoque - ZF 9-speed auto or Getrag 6-speed manual. 9-speed auto replaces FL2's 6-speed.

* Haldex is now Gen 5. (FL2 Gen 3/4.)

* Optional Active Driveline allows the rear drivetrain to be disconnected (giving 2wd) for economy.

What have I missed?

Post #253736 18th Feb 2015 2:32 pm
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RogB



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so for the moment its a FL2 with a posh frock and a new transmission Laughing (or is that just me being cynical Whistle )

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