I know where you are coming from in terms of comments reluctant to change. but I think those are different from what is being said here. Nobody is saying it's not a lr, the DS is firmly part of a market that lr has a footprint in with the evoque and fl2. The comments here are that whilst there are a lot of improvements, there are also a lot of detractors.

Myself included tend to post the detractors alone. I agree the DS is an improvement over the fl2 in many areas, the cabin is a better quality finish design than the freelanderr etc.

I suppose at the moment that it's just too close to the evoque that I just really don't see the point of it. The fl2 was cheaper and differentiated from the evoque. Now the line is too blurred.

With that in mind, I genuinely think that you could of just added 6" of boot space to an evoque, called it the evoque lwb and had the same car as the DS. That way break the evoque out into its own family as the small land rover, leaving the rest in their own right.

Warkmann, I didn't say anything about it not being a proper Land Rover and nor, so far as I can see, did anybody else. My point was that the new design doesn't meet my specific needs. Doubtless LR has done all the focus group and car clinic stuff and is confident that there are plenty of customers for it but, I'm not one of them.

Excuse my ignorance but can you get a full size spare in the back of a DS?

Not yet as the wheel well has the +2 seats folded into it - When the 5 seater version comes out there will be a spare wheel well. You can't fit a space saver either at the moment. Of course the boot is large enough to carry a full size spare if you don't carry anything else. _________________
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So poor underbody protection and no spare wheel. They obviously don't expect to sell many to people with jobs requiring off road capability. I can see me buying another FL2 or something other than a DS in a year or so.

Interesting that I had LR Assist out the other night and the guy had a set of spare wheels and tyres that would fit any Jaguar or LR. He had to carry these as very often the repair kits don't work since the punctured tyre has been run flat and can't be inflated. What does that tell you?

You can have a space saver spare plus the 3rd row seating. The spare is carried underneath as per the larger Disco.
The DS has the same underbody protection as the Fl2, ie not a lot. Must be fitted at the factory as the exhaust system is different for the spare and non spare cars.

I do find it strange that a 5 seater for the Eastern European market may well follow my 7 seater down the line but I can't have one, everything else on the car fits the bill for me. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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So when you have put your space saver spare on , where do you put your punctured wheel?

This is where it gets complicated, the centre section of the rear bumper which hides the towing eye etc has to be removed as I understand it for the full size alloy to fit.

It ain't the finest bit of design. I've had 7 LRs and haven't had a puncture so I've went without. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

is there an emoticon for gobsmacked ?

All LR had to do was make the 3rd row optional as it is in Australia and practically every other market. I'm sure there would be a few more takers. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

I think there will be once the initial excitement has gone, the three models they have released are high spec models, this time next year I think we will see different models. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

j77 wrote:

I've had 7 LRs and haven't had a puncture so I've went without.

4x4 type tyres seem to be susceptible to punctures from screws, nails and the like - possibly because the chunky tread can flip them upright, then they puncture the tyre. I can't remember when I last had a puncture in a 'normal' car, but I've had a few in the various 4x4s, including a bolt through the tread of a Wrangler on the FL2. Fortunately that one occurred just as I was planning to replace the tyres anyway.

Took one of our FL2s into the dealer (again) today for the rear diff problem. Whilst there I had a look at a Disco Sport and noticed that the boot lid wouldn't open, I wonder if they were trying to dissuade people from looking inside?

Overall it confirmed my view that I wouldn't buy one, it's just too plush (at first sight anyway) and I am not in the Chelsea Tractor market. Just have to hope that rumours of a baby Freelander are true.

I doubt they are trying to put people off. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200