Hi Chaps

Needing some advice, below are the 0 - 60 times. I am a die hard fan of the manual. I have read before that the Freelander flywheels on the manual are weak and therfore are not recmmeneded to be chipped/tweaked? In this the same case for the 2013/2014 Freelander or have the flywheels been upgraded now If you were to chip the manual to +30bhp would you get the reduced 0-60 time of 8.7 seconds? Also who makes the enigne... not a Peugeot/Renault job is it? Anyone had problems with the stop/start system? Is the 2.2 190hp SD4 auto more or less the same engine unit as the 2.2 150hp, only difference being that it has been chipped and fitted with a auto box? Finally do you think the SD4 will be available as a manual for the MY14 edition?


TD4 Manual 0- 60 10.9 seconds
TD4 Auto 0-60 10.5 seconds
SD4 Auto 0-60 8.7 seconds

Alot of questions asked

ta

Moved it to general, it's not a technical issue, the FL2 is not a sports car and it's 0-60 is academic, yes it can be quick but takes some stopping and flinging it into a roundabout at speed is not for the faint hearted, why do it.

SD4 has a larger turbo and different injectors, I believe, someone better qualified than I will be able to answer that better.

Performance diesels certainly give it better poke,midrange noticeably so.

Hi,
Yes, you are quite right about the Dual Mass Flywheel and yes, they are still failing. Not an ideal candidate for chipping plus you'd loose the warranty.
The engine is PSA. It's a joint venture between Peugeot, Citroen and Ford. Amongst 4x4 vehicles using this engine are Citroen Crosser and Pug 4007. It has also been used in 2wd saloon cars.
Dual Mass Flywheel failures are not limited to the PSA unit. Almost every other VM around the World has suffered problems.

Hope this helps  Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

LRNUT,
Forget any notion you may have about SD4 manual. Not going to happen.

Thanks Taz! I understand it's not a Supercharged Range Rover just finding out a bit more about the engines as the the SD4 is quicker 0-60 and would like the manual to be approx same Natwest why not????? it's available on the evoque thought maybe they may bring it out as freelander is on last spec change really before big shape change happens thought it would look like a significant spec change to freshen the line up.....

EVERY manufacturer has issues with Dual Mass Flywheels, but Land Rover have less of a problem than others due to the way the cars mapped from the factory.

Freelanders are mapped to be non aggressive on acceleration compared to other 'cars' that use the same engine.

I have a manual with a Bluefin re-map. It has been on since January 2008, and I am still on my original flywheel at 63000 miles.

Dual Mass Flywheels will last the life of the car if treated right. I did 300,000 miles between 4 1.9 CDTi Vectra, Signums and an Astra and never had a dual mass flywheel.

As said above, the Freelanders are not aggressively mapped, and even after a re-map, they are still not aggressive, just more progressive. First and second gear are pretty much standard.

Freelanders Dual mass flywheel is the same as the Evoques SD4 manual, which as we know is 190bhp although a little lighter.

When I speak to my dealer, and they tell they very rarely change dual mass flywheels, it doesn't make me worry. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Hi Mav cheers for that never knew the evoque SD4 has same flywheel as TD4! How much bhp are you running now then? If 190 is your 0-60 time same as the SD4?

I've got a 2009 MY Manual Freelander, re-mapped to approx. 500 Nm and 180 hp half a year ago. Clutch had been changed 1,5 years ago, at 35 Tkm without replacing DMF, warranty claim rejected. Additionally, a sprint-booster for accelerator pedal is installed. Subjectively, there is a big diffrence in acceleration in 60-140 km/h range. The car is definetely more responsive than in stock mode. Yet, in the first gears the gain in acceleration is not very noticable, the smaller cars still being quicker off at traffic lights. But overtaking has become much quicker / safer. In short, the re-map pays off. However, one should not expect to make a sports car from Freelnader.

Greetings from Riga,

atrix

LR NUT wrote:

Natwest why not????? it's available on the evoque thought maybe they may bring it out as freelander is on last spec change really before big shape change happens thought it would look like a significant spec change to freshen the line up.....

i4 do you mean i6

LR NUT wrote:

Hi Mav cheers for that never knew the evoque SD4 has same flywheel as TD4! How much bhp are you running now then? If 190 is your 0-60 time same as the SD4?

LR NUT wrote:

i4 do you mean i6

On Topix my engine is down as a Volvo engine, is that right? It's a 2010 TD4.

The stop/start feature seems to work when it wants to but I don't mind as it lowered the car tax! Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White.

Made by Ford at Dagenham for Peugeot, Citroen and also used by Mitsubishi, slight differences and mapping but the main engine is about the same. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

I've not had time to play with everything in my SD4 Lux but did have a little go with the Command Shift and was really quite taken with it. It seemed to have pretty much all the fun of a manual, without the 'fun' of a dual mass flywheel and clutch ! I can imagine it is pretty good for busy city driving, especially if it is hilly. Still, nice to go back into auto, switch on cruise control and put your feet up on the passenger seat  2007 SE Manual : Gone and missed but 2013 HSE Lux is better!
Series IIa : Gone but hopefully still alive.