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Ben Twillie



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I have just seen this message - OIL SERVICE REQUIRED VISIT DEALER. My MY11 SD4 is 11 months old and done 10,500 miles and is booked in for its first service in 2 weeks time; however, on Monday I am driving to Scotland for a holiday. Phoned dealer and they are bringing my service forward to tomorrow. I am impressed by this as since buying the car in Yorkshire I have moved to Suffolk, so I am not dealing with the supplying dealer. My dealer is now Marshalls of Cambridge, but I am using their servicing centre in Bury St Edmunds. Previous posts do explain that this warning is as a result of oil dilution caused by DPF regenerations. The problem with ignoring it is that after a while (don't know exactly how long or how many miles or regenerations) the ECU can drop you into limp mode. So if it were not for my holiday I probably would have waited for my service in two weeks, but with 2000 miles planned it was too risky. But WELL DONE Marshalls.

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I was a bit worried when it flashed up on my SD4 a few weeks before my service, apparently down to 'forced' regeneration as the normal regeneration will not have to artificially raise the temperature by using excess diesel fuel in the process.
My dealer put it down to my winter style of driving, meaning I don't go out much Laughing but he's right, my 6 months of winter driving was nearly all travelling to work into the city 35mph max and no chance of a natural regeneration.

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As SteveNorman has already said, there are 2 service reset procedures to carry out when doing a service. Both should be carried out at the time of servicing Strathearn Engineering
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Sarada78



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Is it something to do with poor quality disel? I just imported a Freelander 2011 SD4 to Sri Lanka. It has done 8000 miles and indicating the ' Oil Service required visit dealer' Massage.

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Sarada78 wrote:
Is it something to do with poor quality disel? I just imported a Freelander 2011 SD4 to Sri Lanka. It has done 8000 miles and indicating the ' Oil Service required visit dealer' Massage.

Check the vehicle manufacture date. if it's 1 year from the date then you will get the massage. My Freelander also gave me the same msg on June 1st 2012. Then i check the book and found out that the manufacture date was 1st June 2011. So nothing to do with the oil. Just a reminder. Even i checked the oil manually and found ok. So after couple of weeks i had my service with frontier and they reset the msg for me. and today 23rd June 2013, i have been getting the msg for 23 days and my service is due in 23rd July. just double check if your is EU5 then you have DPF. Just make sure you drive on our only highway for at least 20 min per month to clear the filter.

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Ben Twillie



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Check the vehicle manufacture date. if it's 1 year from the date then you will get the massage.Laughing

You wont get a MASSAGE from a Freelander 2 but I know someone in Colombo who might be able to help!

The MESSAGE is telling you that the oil has become contaminated by diesel fuel as a result of DPF regenerations. Unless the oil has been changed recently you need to change it. If the oil has been changed recently the dealer has not reset the warning.

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Ben Twillie wrote:
The MESSAGE is telling you that the oil has become contaminated by diesel fuel as a result of DPF regenerations. Unless the oil has been changed recently you need to change it. If the oil has been changed recently the dealer has not reset the warning.


Sorry Ben, but just to contradict your comment a little:

I bought mine new/unregistered in October last year, with 8 miles on the odometer. 8 weeks later, the oil service light came on, which Stratstones reset in January this year, 3500 miles in. Since then, it hasn't missed a beat, and is currently just approaching 16,000 miles...by Friday, when it is due to be serviced, it will (just) have exceeded that. Naturally, the oil service indicator hasn't come on at all, which proves to me that it is merely a timer/reminder clock that works on 12 month cycles, rather than monitoring the quality of oil constantly like the BMW/Audi/Vauxhall ones do. For the record, although it was registered in Oct 12, it was manufactured in late Jan 12, which explains why it came on in the first place back in late Dec 12. Foraging near Gaydon....
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[quote="Badger1970"]

Ben Twillie wrote:
which proves to me that it is merely a timer/reminder clock that works on 12 month cycles,


Or maybe if youve had the battery disconnected for a while or it went flat the times maybe all out if it wasnt reset properly upon reconnecting??

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Ben Twillie



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[quote="Mona Geeza"]

Badger1970 wrote:
Ben Twillie wrote:
which proves to me that it is merely a timer/reminder clock that works on 12 month cycles,


Or maybe if youve had the battery disconnected for a while or it went flat the times maybe all out if it wasnt reset properly upon reconnecting??


firstly; The statement above is not mine.

My experience is that the OIL SERVICE REQUIRED VISIT DEALER warning comes on at about 11 month cycles. Probably because I do a lot of short journeys. Whereas the SERVICE warning comes on about 30 days before the annual service is required. They have to be reset independently and the owner cannot reset the oil warning, that has to be done by a LR dealer.

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Hello!
I purchased a Freelander 2 in November 2011. I have been having one only problem: Since June 2012 and 10,909 kms. the sign "OIL SERVICE REQUIRED.VISIT DEALER" has been showing on the screen approximately every three/five months.
I have had the oil changed five times since November 2012. (The last time on 25th April!).

The vehicle has now 33,200 kms. That means I have been driving the car an average of 1,200 kms a month, which means I drive in town and on the road.

If the problem is that you have to drive the Freelander2 with certain conditions, such as driving for 40 minutes(!!!), or even 20 minutes, at a minimum speed of 60 mph/ or 80 kph/, they ought to have informed me before buying the car.

Obviously if the dealers inform their prospective customers they may/might have to change the oil every 6,000 kms, there would not be so many Freelanders on the road.

I feel not informing the customers is a swindle / fraud. And let me tell you, owing a Freelander 2 has been a nightmare.

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We just bought an 11 plate FL2 which was serviced a month ago at 38k miles. When the car got to 40k the OIL SERVICE warning came up. I emailed the dealer service dept and the response was....

I am sorry to learn that the service due light has illuminated on your sons vehicle.
I am sure its just a glitch but it can only be put out by our service department.
Would you like me to arrange this for you ?


We can live with this but does this mean that it is getting more and more difficult to get your car serviced by an Indy?

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We can live with this but does this mean that it is getting more and more difficult to get your car serviced by an Indy?


Most modern cars will require greater investment in dedicated equipment. The oil service indicator is just the tip of the iceberg. Wink The days of a small garage doing any car have been numbered for quite a while now.

What about autobox & diff software update on a service to prevent gearbox damage?
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Does anybody know what trips the service indicator for oil change on later cars? Is it a clever device which measures pil dilution or is it a counter for DPF regeneration?
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Ie if it just looks at oil can we just change the oil at say 8,000 miles and avoid it tripping the sensor ?
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I've got a 2010 car and wondering about upgrading to a 2012 but as I service my own car I don't want to visit a dealer just so he can reset the software.
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Ben Twillie



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I asked this question and the answer I got was that the ECU monitors and records various engine parameters. Two of which are the number of cold starts and the number of forced DPF regenerations. We know that a forced regen of the DPF pumps diesel into the DPF and burns it to raise the internal temperature to burn off the soot. Somehow or other some of the diesel finds its way into the sump and dilutes the engine oil. The OIL SERVICE REQUIRED VISIT DEALER warning comes on after a predetermined number of forced regens has been reached. It seems there is no actual monitoring of the oil quality. My driving profile has been the same since I bought the car new and I do too many short trips. As a result I get the warning each year about a month before the service is due by date, not mileage. My warning came on 2 weeks ago and my 3rd service is next week. What I don't know is what happens if you ignore it (not withstanding engine damage in the longer term) does the car drop into limp mode?
Nevertheless, I have never had a DPF warning in 3 years, or for that matter any other fault - the only car I have ever owned from new that has had absolutly nothing done under warranty. Shouldn't have said that 3 weeks to go yet.

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Manuel - please let us know the details of your vehicle. Enter these in your personal area and they will appear as an icon under your name (wave mouse over small Land Rover to the left of this to see how it works). The message is related to DPF, as explained above, but export vehicles were fitted with DPF before the UK vehicles, and seem to experience different problems.
If it is related to your DPF regenerating, this could be down to fuel quality. Do you use premium (ie top grade) fuel? Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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