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Big Dave



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The thing you have to watch with tunes is transmissions, especially with diesels as it's the torque that destroys them.

Bare in mind that freelanders regularly have tow bars on them, meaning that they pull alot of weight, they'll be using a higher percentage of their torque output, more of the time, than say a 3 series being driven on the motorway.

That's why a specialist tuning company wouldn't go for the biggest numbers.

Another way of saying it, unless you know the owner, how many people on here would allow someone to do service work on their 30 grand Freelander, that is not a specialist. I.e a garage that does any servicing on any car?

I know what my answer is... Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

Post #71461 2nd Jul 2010 5:44 pm
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quattro autocare



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What about Autologic remaps. They do a diagnostic machine which does full dealer diagnostis and it can also remap all Landrovers. Plus they have a full technical landrover trained support team at the end of the phone. These guys make there own diagnostic software so there maps must be safe and made correctly. Going to do my car soon just running it in then it will be getting the Autologic treatment. Im only remapping mine for better fuel consumption, Getting 38.7mpg manual gear box and im hoping for over 40mpg after remap. Plus if there is any problems the standard map can be put back on at no charge and the ecu counter reprogrammed so there is no way of knowing it has been touched. I used to work in the dealers at York and I dont ever remember any warranty work not been done because of a remap. Dealers get paid by landrover for doing warranty work, So Landrover themselfs is there best customer but they have to wait 30days ish to get paid.

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redlabel



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Still waiting for the JE graph. Have sent them a mail.
The Autologic graph:

Click image to enlarge


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Post #71537 5th Jul 2010 10:28 am
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Adrian888



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very useful info on this thread. I have decided to go for the autologic remap with a k & N filter. hasa nyone any further info/experience/feedback they can add to this/ eh tu?

Post #180366 16th Apr 2013 11:43 am
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ad210358



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It's your money.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic10695.html?

Post #180442 16th Apr 2013 6:45 pm
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Adrian888



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Thanks for the pointer however having had one on my remapped A2 TDi for almost 100k miles without any problems I am still going ahead with it. eh tu?

Post #180453 16th Apr 2013 7:05 pm
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Mav71



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[quote="xtattsbox"]

Big Dave wrote:
. What concerns me is that if these guys are the best at what they do with Land Rover, then the Bluefin etc of the world that take the power up to 190 bhp are going to destroy engines wholesale....


Explain why it would destroy engines 'wholesale'

I have been using Bluefin for over 5 years on mine and near on 50,000 miles. I am still on the same Dual Mass flywheel (which is still perfect), and the engine doesn't miss a beat and never uses any oil.

JE and Superchips are without doubt the best two companies who offer reliable re-maps for the 2.2 TD4. They both have spent hundreds of hours perfectly what they offer.

Big Dave understands how this all works and I agree with him 100%. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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Adrian888



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If remaps destroyed engines wholesale the company wouldn't survive the litigation. I have had something in the region of a dozen cars remapped and probably covered close to 300k miles with remapped engines and all without any engine failures and 2 of those cars were very highly tuned diesels built by Triple 8 Engineering who built the Vauxhall Touring race cars and the current MG6 race cars. eh tu?

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Mav71



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Adrian888 wrote:
If remaps destroyed engines wholesale the company wouldn't survive the litigation. I have had something in the region of a dozen cars remapped and probably covered close to 300k miles with remapped engines and all without any engine failures and 2 of those cars were very highly tuned diesels built by Triple 8 Engineering who built the Vauxhall Touring race cars and the current MG6 race cars.


Totally agree, apart from the 888 Astra diesels were only about 180 bhp and 295lb/ft Wink Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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Adrian888



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The T8 Astra CDTi was rated at 200 horses and my second one had an estimated 196 on the RR. having owned 2 of them, one from new and given my experience of chipped diesels 200 horses was not an exageration. Having said that as a dieselhead I prefer to talk torque..... eh tu?

Post #180802 18th Apr 2013 11:52 am
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Mav71



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I am with you on the tuned diesels Adrian Thumbs Up I was also involved with 888 when Thurlby commissioned them to do the 888 edition Astra's and unfortunately non of them produced the 330lb/ft thiat the EDS software promised. Non hit 200bhp either.

They were a good spec car for the price though! And a lot of fun.

Are you still over on the Vauxhall scene? Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Post #180804 18th Apr 2013 11:56 am
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Adrian888



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I ocassionally pop back to the AON forum, I know Andrew from when he set up the owners club and my second T8 was his car which he sold to me to fund building 'the hearse'. I do still miss the T8 and keep looking on p/heads at the ads and dream..... Now you know why I am Adrian888!! I did consider a DTUK 'tuning box which Andrew sells for the Freelander and have used them on a Saab and Honda. eh tu?

Post #180808 18th Apr 2013 12:03 pm
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Mav71



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I am on AOC a lot with my Linea Rossa Convertible.

I ran 4 mapped 1.9 CDTi's with software from EDS, BSR and Courtenay and also a box from Andy. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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flycop2000



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I'm on my 3rd remapped Freelander (1st two each had 60,000 miles on the clock) and never had engine problems, never had a Dealer carryout a "rip off" priced service either. Very Happy Very Happy

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sparkybaz



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friend of mine has just had his td4"158 bhp" mapped using a superchips Bluefin,the difference is amazing ,there is no need to use the pedal,the weight of your foot is enough,but power and torque when needed is unreal.5th and 6th gear on the manual are useable everyday gears now.midrange is very pokey especially 3rd gear.he's a happy bunny.

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