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athelstan Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: Reality Posts: 2658 |
Indeed Alex.
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4th Sep 2012 7:40 pm |
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dr. tom Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Duesseldorf/NRW Posts: 15 |
Let us put science aside and apply common sense:
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5th Sep 2012 8:14 am |
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IanH Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: Stirling Posts: 137 |
Well there's lots of tech debate going on, but I thought I'd now feedback into the forum as I've been adding TSO to my GS since May. I'm not sure that it has made the car run smoother or quieter but, but there has been no adverse effects and my MPG has gone from an average of 38.6 to 40.5. So even given any inaccuracy re the on board computer (which has been the subject of other threads on here) fuel economy seems to be a definite benefit! |
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5th Sep 2012 9:24 am |
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alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4642 |
Totally agree with you. From engineering point of view, all OK. BUT... I will start with a parallel thinking... We know that today engines are made with tighter and tighter tolerances. The spaces/tolerances are narrower and narrower. Therefore the need for a thinner and thinner motor oil. A 0W30 or even 0W20 type of oil is not so special nowadays. A thinner oil will mean that the viscosity of that oil is lower than others. If you run a modern engine with an old oil like 20W50 will certainly mean a slow destruction of that engine because there will be areas in that engine where a thick oil like 20W50 will not penetrate. Now moving ahead and thinking of diesel and 2SO. A 2SO is much, much thicker, with a greater viscosity, that the diesel fuel. Imagine that a device (the HP pump) that generates 2000+ bars of pressure, has to have very tight tolerances. How thickening the diesel fuel with 2SO will affect the HP pump? I realize that the diesel thickening with temperature will be much greater, but again, the 2SO is also thickening with temperature and the question remain... More of that it raises another one: how about adding 2SO to diesel in below 0 temperatures? |
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5th Sep 2012 9:55 am |
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Walenut Member Since: 17 Jun 2012 Location: Midlands Posts: 116 |
I would second this and there have been other similar observations throughout this topic, I have seen an improvement in my MPG particularly urban which I mainly do, which to be honest I was quite surprised about because I was slightly dismissive, as when I first read the comments I didn't take that much notice because I was mainly concentrating of the protection element. I wounder if the TSO is improving the calorific value of the fuel and improving combustion giving a better burn, an interesting debate I think and how this might effect the engine? |
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22nd Sep 2012 7:50 am |
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oldgeezer Member Since: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 1302 |
The diagnostic equipment i have allows me to read lots of live data.
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22nd Sep 2012 8:50 am |
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DiscoGeorge Member Since: 20 Nov 2010 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 193 |
Hi guys
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20th Oct 2012 4:14 pm |
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Dave Member Since: 04 Jul 2007 Location: Somewhere Near You Posts: 2666 |
Come back to take a pop at other people have you ______________________
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20th Oct 2012 5:00 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
<snip> what a , hopefully hes gone off somewhere to needlessly charge his battery
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20th Oct 2012 5:07 pm |
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DiscoGeorge Member Since: 20 Nov 2010 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 193 |
Hi Dave no - not at all. But it is always amazing how one gets initially attacked, when coming up with an easy fix for a fairly wide spread problem. Once this then has then been accepted by the "fraternity", then all and sundry seem to have been propagating it all along. Have a peep into the Disco3.co.uk forum then you will understand what I mean. I don't take this personal in any way. In Europe few individuals have the opportunity to clock up high mileages like we do here in SA. I do more km's in a month than the majority of europeans do in a year. So my observations are based on fact and not on fiction. With kind regards DiscoGeorge 1998 Disco1 ES 300Tdi with twin TrueTracs 2005 Disco3 TDV6 S And some more serious stuff Last edited by DiscoGeorge on 21st Oct 2012 6:59 am. Edited 1 time in total |
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20th Oct 2012 6:13 pm |
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Dave Member Since: 04 Jul 2007 Location: Somewhere Near You Posts: 2666 |
I'm a member of all of Martin's forums, as my signature would suggest I've been working my way through all that LR make.
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20th Oct 2012 6:44 pm |
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kaanage Member Since: 25 Feb 2011 Location: Victoria Posts: 29 |
Here are some pictures and comments from a long time 2-stroke oil user in the US of his engine internals. It's pretty impressive.
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24th Oct 2012 11:27 am |
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DiscoGeorge Member Since: 20 Nov 2010 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 193 |
Hi kaanage
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24th Oct 2012 10:21 pm |
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alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4642 |
Some facts, thanks to Toadshall:
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28th Oct 2012 11:42 am |
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