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Dave



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Scotland 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

Can confirm that the Wife's FL2 does it too.

After a long journey, the first depress of the clutch is always stiffer than normal. I don't see it as a problem. ______________________
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Post #50346 16th Nov 2009 1:35 pm
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avtur



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Stornoway Grey

I made an earlier reply to this thread stating I had no problem.

Well, that changed just a few weeks before my FL2 was sold, I had significant problems with the clutch.

Not quite the same circumstance but this is what happened ... got in car one morning, clutch very stiff, pushed and pushed but pedal would not move ... pushed again (very hard!) pedal moved ... went to the floor and stayed there ...

On that day I was desperate to make a meeting 180 miles away, (mostly motorway) so had to find a plan B ... Found a 2 metre usb power cable in the glove box ... tied one end around the clutch pedal and other end was in left hand ... this enabled me to pull the clutch pedal up and therefore engage it. Journey was made successfully and at the end of the journey the clutch had sort of come back to life although was very slow to release and engage. The cable remained attached to the clutch pedal for about 4 weeks before I returned the car, through that time the cable was used from time to time but the clutch was still poorly when I returned the car. I hope the new owner got it sorted. Stornoway Grey GS ... What a fine motor Smile ... but not any more ... Big Cry ... psst look at my gallery!
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geordiedancer71



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Zermatt Silver

SNAP!

Same issue, although my FL2 has 36000 on the clock, i have only noticed it it the last few thousand miles.
I am taking it up to me mothers in Northumberland next weekend, so going to see if the issue still arises.
Its a kind of strange feeling when you depress the clutch, still and feels weird! Exclamation

07 gs by the way...if needed. Anyhoo off oot on me mobike.....

Post #50625 20th Nov 2009 11:46 am
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geordiedancer71



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Zermatt Silver

well tested this on a 2 hour drive from Barnsley to Gateshead, no change of gear, turned off for the metro centre, the misses idea not mine!
and the clutch, was so stiff, so will be booking it into the dealers next week for them to take a look. Anyhoo off oot on me mobike.....

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England 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Santorini Black

Mine has been back twice to the dealer the second time the gearbox was taken out but I still have a stiff clutch. Has anybody had this problem fixed by a dealer?

Regards,

Jim

Post #68647 17th May 2010 12:03 pm
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Steveb



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Don'suppose any of you have found an answer to this have you? My 07 plate never did it(90k by the time we parted) but this 09 plate with50k has started recently. After a long run without changing gear the first press of the clutch is really stiff, then all is fine, it's going in for a service on Tuesday, any comments would be appreciated.

Post #148083 8th Jul 2012 7:02 pm
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vanoord



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Steveb wrote:
Don'suppose any of you have found an answer to this have you? My 07 plate never did it(90k by the time we parted) but this 09 plate with50k has started recently. After a long run without changing gear the first press of the clutch is really stiff, then all is fine, it's going in for a service on Tuesday, any comments would be appreciated.


Mine got better after a service.

I *suspect* it's down to fluid levels, i.e. if it's overfilled slightly then it's as if pressure builds up and that isn't relieved until the clutch has been pressed.

Post #148290 10th Jul 2012 2:39 pm
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spigy1



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Same here

Mine is in tomorrow , exactly same fault , long journey clutch really stiff , dealership told me hey have never heard of the issue before , reading here I think they might be trying it on

Post #148675 15th Jul 2012 8:05 pm
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Convert



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2008 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Stornoway Grey

Mine has done this for a while now. Champion when cold but after half hour or so driving in top it stiffens. I think engine heat may have something to do with it. Could the slave cylinder be drying out a little or the thrust bearing sticking with the heat and that first push frees everything? It is hard to find a fault when not there all the time but if so many folks have reported this then it is not a one off. Somebody in the engineering departments among the LR dealerships may have a logical reason why????

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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Santorini Black

Mine does this & has done for quite some time. I thought it was just my imagination & that after a while without using the clutch my leg wasn't used to pressing the pedal. Confused
Has anyone had a dealer fix this? Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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Post #151132 14th Aug 2012 4:26 pm
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I would be slightly concerned, there are no cables involved and no clutch fork to operate the 'release bearing'.

The master cylinder rod is directly connected to the pedal and the pressure is then transferred to the slave cylinder that is in itself combined with the 'release bearing', so the slave and release bearing sits on the mainshaft and its this bearing that may well be resistive in moving, ie picking up on the shaft initially when asked to move.

I'd certainly mention it to the dealer and ask that it is recorded on the cars log sheet in case it escalates to a problem in the future.

Post #151164 15th Aug 2012 7:08 am
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Hi
my 07 plate does this. I was really worried at first thinking my clutch was going to blow up!
Its only after motorway miles this happens.
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wurzel153



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Sorry to resurrect an old thread.

I have had this stiff clutch after a long journey from 3000 miles, now on 16000, mentioned it to the dealer (harwoods tonbridge), they advised that the gearbox needs to come out to investigate. Dealer has then replaced the clutch and release bearing and slave cylinder, the clutch and bearing showed signs of blueing which I believe is heat issues. The flywheel and other bits were fine.

The removed clutch has never slipped or shown any other signs of wear and the only thing I have towed is my son on his toy tractor.

Can anyone tell me why this blueing occurs.

Also thumbs up for harwoods tonbridge, spot on customer service.

Post #167364 14th Jan 2013 8:54 pm
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wurzel153



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As above.

Can anyone tell me why blueing or (bluing) occured on my clutch considering it never towed anything.

Cheers

Post #167584 16th Jan 2013 12:52 pm
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JST



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France 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Narvik Black

I have no experience of this on a Freelander 2 but if the slave cylinder starts to stick or seize, the clutch may not engage properly or smoothly and hence overheat. It would also cause the pedal to require more pressure. John
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