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Tigger



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I've been out greenlaning with a friend with a bib equiped Freelander 2 and those bibs ground out a treat. Although they are pretty flimsy, the do put a fair amount of stress on the bumper as they ground out. Hopefully the screws will pull through the plastic and the spats will be lost in the mud before any more serious damage is done.

Quite funny to watch in a morbid sort of way though! Rolling Eyes Laughing

Post #139304 10th Apr 2012 6:14 pm
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xtd5



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Barolo Black

Having got fed up with loads of water landing on the windscreen whilst driving on Hampshire country roads in all this recent rain, I have just fitted the latest smaller, front bib spoilers (as no bibs fitted to my 2007 model). What a difference they make! No longer does water spray up and forward, to land on the bonnet / windscreen when you drive into it; water now goes out sideways and you can see after going through a puddle. Thoroughly recommend this mod. Cheap and easy to fit Smile

Post #141299 29th Apr 2012 9:57 am
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chrisdeeming



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where can i get these bib spoilers from Smile

Post #141312 29th Apr 2012 11:40 am
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Tigger



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chrisdeeming wrote:
where can i get these bib spoilers from Smile


My bin Laughing

Post #141315 29th Apr 2012 12:46 pm
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landy19840



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You can get front SPATS from dealer, worth there wait in water this weather! Just hit a flood across the road at 60mph and all the water cleared to the sides. Absolutely fab, easy to remove if you wish to go off roading

Post #141318 29th Apr 2012 1:15 pm
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Ben Twillie



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My car came with these front spats fitted so I have no experience of driving a FL2 without them. All I can say is if these represent an improvement, or a reduction, in the amount of water that hits the windscreen after driving through standing water then it must be Censored awful without them!!

Post #141319 29th Apr 2012 1:37 pm
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RegG



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chrisdeeming wrote:
where can i get these bib spoilers from Smile


Give Dan at Duckworths (the site sponsor) a ring. They cost only about £10 for the pair and are a worthwhile addition IMHO (others will no doubt disagree!). Thumbs Up 2010 HSE TD4 auto, Biscay Blue, Almond Leather, facelift front and rear, detachable towbar, front & rear mudflaps, bib spoilers, clear high level brake light, smooth rear wiper, colour coded door handles.

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Post #141360 29th Apr 2012 6:18 pm
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mudslinger



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landy19840 wrote:
You can get front SPATS from dealer, worth there wait in water this weather! Just hit a flood across the road at 60mph and all the water cleared to the sides. Absolutely fab, easy to remove if you wish to go off roading


I would have a bad back at the end of the first week of trying to re-attach them all the time ,
it IS OFF ROADING JUST TO GET TO MY HOUSE..!!!

across the mountain down a track, swerving to miss the : lambs ..! (to young for road sense yet )
and don,t even ask about the black faced ones !!! Wales
Were the mud is thicker, and the ruts are deeper.
(And we have the water to wash it off, and more on the way..! )
Sd4 and chrome Ar*e piece, Auto box for best fun
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Post #141365 29th Apr 2012 7:05 pm
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chrisdeeming



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mudslinger wrote:
landy19840 wrote:
You can get front SPATS from dealer, worth there wait in water this weather! Just hit a flood across the road at 60mph and all the water cleared to the sides. Absolutely fab, easy to remove if you wish to go off roading


I would have a bad back at the end of the first week of trying to re-attach them all the time ,
it IS OFF ROADING JUST TO GET TO MY HOUSE..!!!

across the mountain down a track, swerving to miss the : lambs ..! (to young for road sense yet )
and don,t even ask about the black faced ones !!!


haha Laughing Rolling with laughter

Post #141389 29th Apr 2012 8:20 pm
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pb1008



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Just fitted a pair, ready for the rain which started today Sad
Thanks Dan (Duckworths) for the quick delivery.

Post #149701 29th Jul 2012 11:54 am
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taztastic



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I find them totally useless, puddles at any speed and the rain hits the screen.

Post #149708 29th Jul 2012 1:01 pm
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R1zla



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver

Nice .... Very Happy



Hmm , i may have to fit some now .... Bugga

Post #153795 5th Sep 2012 9:50 pm
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Wedge



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Just fitted them to ours, they really help the splash back from puddles and they look great as well.

Thanks for the info, great cheap mod that works!

Post #172208 18th Feb 2013 11:07 pm
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ccsnet



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Some questions....

1) how much where they from duckwoths Inc postage?
2) having experienced the issue first time recently and at some speed ( a main road I have driven for years....) can some explain the physics of a fl2 going through a puddel where the water should push out yet ends up coming from both the side and front over most of the wind screen.... ( needed new trousers after the experience espesially as it was at night and not raining at the time so wipers off)
3) how do the bibs fix the issue ( in theory) .

T Terran



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Post #172494 21st Feb 2013 12:05 am
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pab



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

There are various effects at work which combine to send the water everywhere. The main ones are due to the rotation of the wheels (which throws the water into the air in the first place) and the aerodynamic effects which carry it to wherever it ends up (including the windscreen). At first glance it seems surprising that water can be thrown forwards, ahead of the car, but if you think about the way the wheel rotates as the car moves, the bottom of the tyre is actually stationary (in contact with the road), which means that the top of the tyre is travelling at twice the speed of the car. And water coming off the top of the tyre is thus travelling faster than the car and gets thrown forwards. (There's also the effect of 'squashing' the water out in front of the tyre.)

Think of a catherine wheel in a storm - the sparks get thrown off in all directions and then blown everywhere.

As for the spats, I'd guess they work more by modifying the aerodynamics than by physically blocking the spray.

The automatic wipers help in conditions like this, although it can sometimes seem like an age before they react!

Post #172527 21st Feb 2013 11:09 am
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