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The Doctor



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Defrosting without heated windscreen

I have owned a number of cars with and without heated windscreens. Last car without it was my FL1 and it was sorely missed. I opted for it on the FL2 and it is useful but the PTC heater or whatever it's called seems quite good when the 'prog' button is pressed. So I was wondering how effective it is at defrosting without using the heated windscreen.

Now, next time it's frosty I could of course see for myself by switching the heated windscreen off but for those owners with S or GS without heated windscreen, how do you find it for defrosting? I suspect it is much improved over the FL1. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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dunroof wrote:
The heated windscreen is okay, but not that great in honesty. It's certainly not instant.


Quick enough for me. By the time I had scraped the small amount of ice from the side windows the other morning, the ice had melted on the windscreen but this PTC thing brings heat to the cabin before the engine warms so I just wondered how good it is on it's own. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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I find the small heater element in the ducting quite good, when pressing 'program' and everything is directed towards the windscreen, the defrosting starts to occur within the minute. I would imagine it being slower than a dedicated screen heater but it certainly speeds up the process.
The last few days have seen a frost of -6 in the mornings and within 3-4 minutes it has cleared sufficiently for me to drive away.

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Mine is quite fast, we haven't had any sufficent frost/ice yet for me to test it out though, but in general frost it seems to have performed quite well, much better than the Freelander 1 we have Smile .

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Pressing the prog button has no effect on the PTC heater, that's automatic based on outside temp

, though it does direct everything up to the windscreen and switch on the heated element in the screen if you have one, along with the rear one

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The heated screen is an excellent concept...guess the appreciation depends if you are over 6 foot tall and can reach the centre of the screen... Smile

There are two considerations in decision process for fitting heated screens...

1) Cost of screen vs saving in the downspeccing of the HEVAC system....heated screen = smaller capacity plenum chgambers and easier packaging at design stage...HEVAC unit is in the most sought after 'space' on the vehicle...that's why a lot of ford cars are fitted with heat screens....try defrosting a fiesta on HEVAC only...takes an age...

2) customer delight in having a heated screen to save the frosty morning scrape..and the ability to reach the centre screen area...

My SD4 clears the screen in far less time than I can clear the side glass...

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The program button for defrosting the car is by far the best I have had on any vehicle.

I have had cars before with heated screens that had their own on/of switch they did not seem as good as the FL2

The conveniance of 1 button press to get you warmed up and going on these cold mornings is fantastic. What if there were no hypothetical situations?

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Gunfa wrote:
The program button for defrosting the car is by far the best I have had on any vehicle.

I have had cars before with heated screens that had their own on/of switch they did not seem as good as the FL2

The conveniance of 1 button press to get you warmed up and going on these cold mornings is fantastic.


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Have to agree, it's by far the most effective button first thing in the winter's mornings. My previous cars had nothing like it.

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Using an ice scraper is like public transports it's for the lower class and chavs it's not cool! Heated screen FTW

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dunroof wrote:
Maybe I am just impatient. It does work, just not as quick as I would want. It should be a 30 second maximum sort of thing to clear the front windscreen. I mean, I could scrape it in at time, so what's the point?


It would have taken more like 30 minutes to scrape the ice off the windscreen the other day. A colleague at work drives a Hyundai i20 and he left about 10 mins before me and walked to the car. When I got to mine he was busy scraping away (-5C) and I got in mine pressed the 'prog' button and managed to drive away whilst he was still scraping and spraying de-icer!

Perhaps ring your local dealer and ask their opinion if you think it may not be functioning as it should. Not sure if it's covered by warranty though. I think one member said they had difficulty trying to get a repair under warranty. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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