there is nothing to say a winter tyre can not be used outside of winter (not that i have seen anyway), so they might wear quicker and maybe not corner or stop as good as a high end summer tyre

BUT, there is no rule to say you can't put the biggest and cheapest pile of cack summer tyre on your car which wouldn't be anywhere near as good as a high end summer tyre, but yet a winter tyre may out perform these.

if it meets or exceeds the ratings then i don't think the insurance company could do anything about it as the ratings are not just winter ratings they are just ratings. Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

There is a rule that says tyres must be to a certain standard and I agree that some are not as good as others and as you say a winter tyre MAY be better than some cheaper brands, but that is not my question.

A winter tyre is defined as just that a ' winter tyre' and we all know that insurance companies are past masters at wriggling.

So a winter tyre known to be less good at temperatures above 7deg , used in the ' summer period ' whatever that is could give rise to wriggle room , maybe.

Surely the opposite would apply when driving a 'summer' tyre in winter, and yet virtually everyone does that.

ChrisSoutham wrote:

Surely the opposite would apply when driving a 'summer' tyre in winter, and yet virtually everyone does that.

ring your insurance company up and ask  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

npinks wrote:

ring your insurance company up and ask

Perhaps you could refer to my original post

the fact is it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks or their insurers, unless your insurers think the same

Ask them what they class as winter periods, i'm sure it will be the same as what your calender says is classed as winter

there you go you have my comments and my previous post (observations)  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Reeventu wrote:

ChrisSoutham wrote:

Surely the opposite would apply when driving a 'summer' tyre in winter, and yet virtually everyone does that.

Very true BUT they are fitted by the manufacturers Winter tyres are not ( in the UK )

,,,
Dose this mean we have to use the same brand and type of tyre on the car forever.?

can i still use my slicks in the winter ?? So much fun!!!

garyd wrote:

Reeventu wrote:

ChrisSoutham wrote:

Surely the opposite would apply when driving a 'summer' tyre in winter, and yet virtually everyone does that.

Very true BUT they are fitted by the manufacturers Winter tyres are not ( in the UK )

,,,
Dose this mean we have to use the same brand and type of tyre on the car forever.?

can i still use my slicks in the winter ?? So much fun!!!

From your commet YOU could do whatever you like

why do you want winter tyres you have own one of the best 4wd vehicles on the market m&s are perfectly ok for snow driving in winter here is a question do you see the army changing its tyres for the seasons,no do you see the emergency services changing tyres for winter no so thank your parents dont bee a and if you need new tyres get m&s ive worked in the motor trade most of my life if you own a merc or a bmw then changing the tyres for winter ones are not going to help very mutch its just another way go getting you to part with your dosh  rainy-city
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bigalf1961 wrote:

why do you want winter tyres you have own one of the best 4wd vehicles on the market m&s are perfectly ok for snow driving in winter here is a question do you see the army changing its tyres for the seasons,no do you see the emergency services changing tyres for winter no so thank your parents dont bee a and if you need new tyres get m&s ive worked in the motor trade most of my life if you own a merc or a bmw then changing the tyres for winter ones are not going to help very mutch its just another way go getting you to part with your dosh

bigalf1961 wrote:

why do you want winter tyres you have own one of the best 4wd vehicles on the market m&s are perfectly ok for snow driving in winter here is a question do you see the army changing its tyres for the seasons,no do you see the emergency services changing tyres for winter no so thank your parents dont bee a and if you need new tyres get m&s ive worked in the motor trade most of my life if you own a merc or a bmw then changing the tyres for winter ones are not going to help very mutch its just another way go getting you to part with your dosh

npinks wrote:

ring your insurance company up and ask

Their reply , in writing was short and to the point , but stll did not answer the real qustion about summer use !!

The reply was ,


winter tyres are in order.

That was it !!

Reeventu wrote:

npinks wrote:

ring your insurance company up and ask

Their reply , in writing was short and to the point , but stll did not answer the real qustion about summer use !!

The reply was ,


winter tyres are in order.

That was it !!

bigalf1961 wrote:

why do you want winter tyres you have own one of the best 4wd vehicles on the market m&s are perfectly ok for snow driving in winter here is a question do you see the army changing its tyres for the seasons,no do you see the emergency services changing tyres for winter no so thank your parents dont bee a and if you need new tyres get m&s ive worked in the motor trade most of my life if you own a merc or a bmw then changing the tyres for winter ones are not going to help very mutch its just another way go getting you to part with your dosh

It is a fact that winter tyres are optimised for lower temperatures and it is a fact that they will give you reduced stopping distances, better grip and up to 40 % reduced wear rates during the winter months. In my experince of driving a 2WD Porsche for 9 years, including 2 living in Germany, i can definitely tell you that I never had grip problems on snow and wear rates on my winter set AND my summer set were both drastically reduced as I was using the tyres in their optimised conditions. As a result, even taking into account the initial outlay, the extra winter set more than paid for themselves and actually saved me a lot of money !!