Just driving down to the FOD, coming down some hills and general braking I noticed my brake peddle was very soft, like I was not gonna stop. I fitted new brakes about a month ago now but they have been fab and done over 1000 miles.

Any ideas why the peddle was soft???

Have you checked the brake fluid level?

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Yeah fluid is full. Maybe they go to hot, but there are defo more spongy than usual

Another classic case of 'spongy brakes' is air in the system, maybe a bit of a 'bleed' needed.

Surely air needs to get in the system first tho???

It does if you brake hard, especially with old brake fluid which will have absorbed moisture, the moisture boils and creates bubbles. Need to generate quite a lot of heat though, which on a long downhill run is possible.

Very true taz. What service do they change brake fluid at???

I think LR say at 3 years, not sure if it would be done against mileage, ie 45,000 or timescale?

Cool I will check, mine is due what ever service is around the 70k mark

Although fluid change is recommended at 3 years, they only do it "if required". If it's been done it should be noted in the service book. Mine has now had 4 services and the last two they said it "wasn't necessary". I suspect it's only really needed if doing a lot of braking while towing, so that the fluid gets too hot.

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Although fluid change is recommended at 3 years, they only do it "if required". If it's been done it should be noted in the service book. Mine has now had 4 services and the last two they said it "wasn't necessary". I suspect it's only really needed if doing a lot of braking while towing, so that the fluid gets too hot.

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They do that anyway - the fluid change is "extra".

Check for a binding brake, this would cause fluid to overheat.
As brake fluid is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture fron the atmosphere) it must be changed at correct intervals as the moisture absorbed lowers the level at which the fluid will boil which in turn will give you problems under heavy use. They will return to normal after cooling down. It is also detrimental to brake components to have moisture in system. All FL2's (3) Gone
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if your calipers were not pulled apart enough when fitting the new disks / pads they might be binding a bit causing them to overheat and boil the fluid.

I had this on a car once where I just replaced the disks / pads - I ened up putting the old pads back on as they had a bit of meat left and it stopped them binding.

Not sure about the landrover but when I did this it had sliding calipers which had seized a bit on the slider causing the binding.

a sure fire way to tell is drive up the road a mile or so without doing any heavy breaking and check the heat of your wheels. be careful tho as they can get very hot! If you have a hot one, it suggests you may have a binder...

Its worth sorting quickly also, as if your pads are binding, it could be over heating your disks which could cause them to warp causing your pedal to wobble! Usually you can see an overheated disk if it has a blueish ting to it.

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I think I have had a binding brake causing the soft brakes. I have also noticed a vibration under heavy braking which I guess mean it's over heated and warped!