Most of the requests here are from a manufacture point of view fairly simple to sort as it is easy to improve most trim parts very easily & make a huge difference.
The satnav & the trip computer are allready there but just need tweaking.

I think possibly the main problem in the FL2 design process was that Ford had too much influence in it particually from the parts bin which has resulted in some areas bein a bit bland (though this could also be said for the Discovery 3 too) & because of this some of the good/usefull parts/ideas of the Freelander 1 were not used i.e rear opening tailgate, elasticated cup grabbers in front doors, more off roady appearance noticeably from the wheelarch point of view, auxillery remote parking heater on TD4, sunglass holder, proper centre console storage.

The Freelander 1 seems to get a fair bit of slating (understandibly on the 1.8 model which I had one of) but without the FL1 there would be no FL2 which Ford should have remembered when choosing the spec for the FL2. (Past) Freelander 2 HSE 2010 MY In Rimini Red.
(Past) RR Evoque Dynamic Lux Si4 In Firenze Red.
(Past) RR Evouque Pure Tech in Barollo Black with bespoke Firenze Red colour coding.
(Present) Freelander Metropolis 2015 MY In Santorini Black with Ivory Premium Leather.

AndyC wrote:

Andy131:
Yeh well - Our FL2 suits very well for the purpose we bought one. ---that's the point we all want different things from the same vehicle - does well considering .
-----So to me it does seem you would have been better off without a Land Rover of any type.

Hi AndyC

Give me a clue what vehicle is better suited to
30k+ miles a year - needs to be fuel efficient and comfortable.
Capable of going down a quarry a couple of times a week.
Tow a 1500kg caraven.
Drive through Morrocco and the Sahara on holiday.
Green laning half a dozen times a year.
Tall enough for ease of entry/exit - bad knee.
Needs to fit 4 adults and have some where secure for tools.
Built in the UK.

The Mrs. did make me look at smaller Jap stuff but when I mentioned hard use to the dealers they ran a mile.
When a previous employer insisted on a BMW he got my notice within 15mins, so no BMW.

Andy131:
Everybody makes a choice that suits their needs and either they are satisfied or they swap for something else that suits better. Your requirements however cannot be found in any other vehicle as far as I can tell and seem rather restricting to choice. If it were not for the MPG and being of foreign blood, it sounds like you are leaning towards Landcruiser country. However by dreaming of a FL2/3 in the guise that you illustrated is way off course, so it would seem that a revaluation of your specification requirements is needed when/if you leave the FL2 flock.  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

I think the freelander at the moment is an excellent car, does what it says on the tin. But i do think land rover can improve the reliability and fit and finish of the new car and take the time to ask what its customers would like to see improved. I personally would like air suspension and low range as standard or as part of a factory fit off road package.

Being realistic, I would like to see the following.

Larger Boot
Choice of engine, 2.2 TD4 is good but needs more power as it is falling behind against the competition
LED daytime running lights, but I understand that is coming on facelift Freelander 2
IPOD Integration
Better Integrated Phone System
Maybe more choice of interior leather colour
In built DVD entertainment option

I also like the way the towbar electrics are hidden on Disco 3/4 and RR. Maybe this could be integrated into the new design.

Option of 7 seats. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Just read this about the Skoda Yeti. "The Vario-Flex seats can be folded or removed to completely open up further load carrying. They also slide fore and aft to adjust the amount of legroom and boot space on offer"
Yes please LR!

Yeti

But read the spec and the price and the 5-year guarantee and the interior quality for the NEW revised Outlander - not a real off-roader by any means, but a very capable 4x4 urban transporter
If only the FL2 was as well equiped  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

Andy131 wrote:

AndyC wrote:

Andy131:
Yeh well - Our FL2 suits very well for the purpose we bought one. ---that's the point we all want different things from the same vehicle - does well considering .
-----So to me it does seem you would have been better off without a Land Rover of any type.

Hi AndyC

Give me a clue what vehicle is better suited to
30k+ miles a year - needs to be fuel efficient and comfortable.
Capable of going down a quarry a couple of times a week.
Tow a 1500kg caraven.
Drive through Morrocco and the Sahara on holiday.
Green laning half a dozen times a year.
Tall enough for ease of entry/exit - bad knee.
Needs to fit 4 adults and have some where secure for tools.
Built in the UK.

The Mrs. did make me look at smaller Jap stuff but when I mentioned hard use to the dealers they ran a mile.
When a previous employer insisted on a BMW he got my notice within 15mins, so no BMW.

A Massey Ferguson fits more than half those wishes.  p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

I would like to see:

- improved build quality
- Xenons standard on the HSE (also offered as an option)
- air suspension
- Rock Crawl added to the TR (with a low ratio gear which is only accessible when it is selected)
- maybe the option of a 2 camera system: front/back showing showing the immediate terrain
- option of park heater
- split tailgate
- smaller derivative of the 3.0 Jaguar unit now being used on the RRS and Disco
- proper iPod connection

Realistically LR aren't going to allow the FL3 to comete with the new small Range Rover and the Discovery 4, but since it is branded as Land Rover I think that they need to up its off road capabilities a bit and make it more attractive to family buyers, whilst still trying to keep it lighter than the rest of the range and cheaper to build.

It's my firm belief and always has been that the options you get on a range rover should be available across the entire range from a Freelander up.

For example, I have a FFRR now but lets say I don’t need the space anymore but still want all the kit - I have no choice but to buy elsewhere how does that make sense?

If I want a £55,000 Freelander "autobiography or exclusive or MG* spec " with a 3.0 TDV6 then I should be able to order it - It wont make the cheap ones and dearer or the HSE any cheaper but give us the option to have air suspension etc IF WE WANT IT AND WANT TO PAY FOR IT like BMW and Merc do!

Rant over

*MG = Mega good

The Doc wrote:

It's my firm belief that the options you get on a range rover should be available across the entire range from a freelander up.

For example, I have a FFRR now but lets say I dont need the space anymore but still want all the kit - I have no choice but to buy elsewhere how does that make sense?

If I want a £55,000 Freelander "autobiography or MG (lol) or exclusive" with a 3.0 TDV6 then I should be able to order it - It wont make the cheap ones and dearer or the HSE any cheaper but give us the option to have air suspension etc IF WE WANT IT AND WANT TO PAY FOR IT like BMW and Merc do!

Rant over

You'll probably get all that on the new Semi Skimmed RR when it comes out.

I'm jealous of your FFRR in any case

Thanks mate - I wont be getting out of a FFRR anytime soon

Maybe I am looking for trouble saying this, but, boy, over 8 pages in only 5 days...
I wonder if under your nicknames you are not all girls...
Nothing satisfies you, you always want more...
And some lists....
Another strike for LR2maker...

alex_pescaru wrote:

Maybe I am looking for trouble saying this, but, boy, over 8 pages in only 5 days...
I wonder if under your nicknames you are not all girls... Nothing satisfies you, you always want more...
And some lists....
Another strike for LR2maker...

How did you guess, sweety  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

Me too and I love the c0ck xxx