New ultra low emission zone is being extended to all London Boroughs in August 2023… hence it will kill off usage of any FL2 unless the 3.2 petrol version within the M25 area.. you will have to pay £12.50 per day to use one daily…
So if you live or travel within the M25 you need to buy a new car because it will not be cost effective !

So my wife, my daughter and my father will need to sell their perfectly good cars and try and find the money to buy something else!
How is this saving the planet? [/b]

It doesn't save the planet, just sells more cars that people can't afford.
Is the i6 exempt? I know mine is as it's LPG. Common sense isn't very common.
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So are all the diesel buses,trucks,vans excempt? Just another way of milking money, since the congestion charge came in London traffic is now WORSE than ever before. 2013 FL2 XS.
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My nephew was hauling his cattle trailer behind his 3 litre Disco 4 , coming back from Skipton Market . There was an accident and a diversion due to the Police closing a main road . He had no choice with the big trailer than to follow it and go through Bradford . That’s now a euro 6 zone for diesels . The penalty arrived within a week . At some point all the big cities will be no go areas for for older diesels . Leeds has suspended it CAZ plans for the moment , but highways engineering and building development of the bigger car parks has virtually killed taking a private car into the centre , although this has been mitigated by a fantastic low cost park and ride service service to which I’m a convert . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

Bristol will be the same from 28th November. £9/ day. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

MartynB wrote:

My nephew was hauling his cattle trailer behind his 3 litre Disco 4 .

I can take my 40 year old series 3 diesel into Birmingham without charge but not my FL2 - go figure Jules

MartynB wrote:

My nephew was hauling his cattle trailer behind his 3 litre Disco 4 , coming back from Skipton Market . There was an accident and a diversion due to the Police closing a main road . He had no choice with the big trailer than to follow it and go through Bradford . That’s now a euro 6 zone for diesels . The penalty arrived within a week . At some point all the big cities will be no go areas for for older diesels . Leeds has suspended it CAZ plans for the moment , but highways engineering and building development of the bigger car parks has virtually killed taking a private car into the centre , although this has been mitigated by a fantastic low cost park and ride service service to which I’m a convert .

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Ground three - no penalty charge payable
No penalty charge is payable under the scheme e.g. I was not in the charging area during charging hours.
The Regulations define this ground as:

"That no penalty charge is payable under the charging scheme."

There are a number of circumstances which may or may not be applicable (remember to provide as much supporting evidence as you can) including:

Diverted into the Ultra Low Emission Zone - If you are diverted into the Ultra Low Emission Zone due to an incident, accident or road works, you should either follow the diversion route or leave as soon as possible. When making a Representation please give as many details as possible including the date, time and location of the diversion; details of the incident that may relate for instance an accident on the M25 and if you spoke with a police officer. We will check our records to confirm if there was a diversion. If, however, you enter the Ultra Low Emission Zone just to avoid traffic or got lost then these are not valid grounds for Representation

tenet wrote:

Bristol will be the same from 28th November. £9/ day.

jules wrote:

MartynB wrote:

My nephew was hauling his cattle trailer behind his 3 litre Disco 4 .

Was it a commercial version?
I've just put my reg plate into the on-line checker and it says no charge for my FL2 in Bradford.

https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones

Even better, the only diversion route for the Avonmouth Bridge wil put you into the ULEZ deliberately. They were unable to justify the cost of setting it all up unless they included the Cumberland Basin in the scheme which happens to be the most westerly route for none motorway traffic across the Avon not including Brunel’s masterpiece, the Clifton Suspension Bridge which doesn’t do heavy traffic.
As IanMetro mentions, the easterly outer circuit road road is a mishmash of speed limits, roundabouts, traffic lights, and the latest hazard to be imposed on drivers, the throughbout. It’s a traffic light controlled junction where drivers wanting to turn right have to enter on the left hand lane and follow a light controlled route through traffic going straight on. There is no central island, just 6 lanes of traffic, 3 in each direction, all fighting to get in front as the carriageway reduces to 2 lanes a little way up the road.
The inner circuit road just dumps you into traffic jams however you get off it.
It goes to show that big business is being taken car of though. There is a way of getting into the Cabot Circus Shopping Centre car park that doesn’t enter the ULEZ. But you have to know your way out of the car park as all the other exits get you a ULEZ charge!

My i6 is from Japan, they have no emission info when brought back, so are taxed at £290 a year it also has LPG but the way its going we are all doomed, to use electric which most likely have a large carbon footprint to make, I read recently that the Americans have come up with a system to keep your engine and run on hydrogen, the have re imported Nissan's into Europe that start on petrol then switch over to hydrogen, of course nothing is said because that does not sell new cars

Farmer Chalk wrote:

New ultra low emission zone is being extended to all London Boroughs in August 2023… hence it will kill off usage of any FL2 unless the 3.2 petrol version within the M25 area.. you will have to pay £12.50 per day to use one daily…
So if you live or travel within the M25 you need to buy a new car because it will not be cost effective !

So my wife, my daughter and my father will need to sell their perfectly good cars and try and find the money to buy something else!
How is this saving the planet? [/b]

Who voted Khan in anyway.
You tend to get what you vote for. He made no secret of his intentions.
Do not take the above comment as a vote for Khan, just an observation. Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

sid the cat -Am in the same boat. It’s my understanding that provided the car’s not driven there’d be no charge. But how would the authorities know if I just popped up the road for a paper for example?


I believe the system works on entry and exit perimeter cameras, then uses 'traffic monitoring' cameras [speed/box junction/traffic light/congestion/etc] for inner perimeter journeys.