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Yorky Bob

Member Since: 28 Apr 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 4561

2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Firenze Red

Yorky Bob wrote:
Andre Page replacement bulb (standard bulb) for just a few quid still bowling along.

That will be a kiss of death now.

and bowling still. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

22nd Jan 2018 8:43 am

Chinster_b

Member Since: 04 Mar 2018
Location: Kent
Posts: 1

Hi all I have joined this forum specifically to deal with the issues with t y e very poor lights in my wife's face lift hse. I can't seem to find an easy and cost effective change to Led yet so wondered if there is any progress on this topic? Cheers

4th Mar 2018 8:45 am

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

Forget LED, the projection is useless

LR have a issued a bulletin to make an addition to the wiring loom (technical bulletin LTB00841V2 released in March 2016)
Take that reference to your local LR dealer and it should be a free of charge modification.

this change to the loom is to prevent bulbs from blowing which is very common on the HB3 Halogens, so it may allow you to fit brighter Halogen bulbs with fear of them blowing or melting.

The part is currently on back order though with no delivery date at this time.

5th Mar 2018 7:54 am

LR NUT

Member Since: 12 May 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 4350

2014 Freelander 2 TD4_e Dynamic Manual Fuji White

Recently I’ve seen so many evoques up here with blown HB3 bulbs! So glad I’ve got xenons think I went through 10 bulbs in 2 years prior to fitting MY15 xenon headlamps. MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

Last edited by LR NUT on 5th Mar 2018 10:41 am. Edited 1 time in total

5th Mar 2018 10:24 am

JulesK

Member Since: 07 Dec 2014
Location: Ceredigion.
Posts: 1664

2014 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Firenze Red

RogB,my local just said' oh we haven't heard of that' If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

5th Mar 2018 10:39 am

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

i think its about £60-£70 for the loom plus fitting charges but I think LR stand the costs, not the dealer.

TBH I think most dealers and service departments are completely devoid of knowledge on stuff like this

5th Mar 2018 11:24 am

LR NUT

Member Since: 12 May 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 4350

Obsolete car now ALL outwith the standard 3 year manufacturer warranty! Hence why not interested unfortunately.

Plus they are thick as Sh*t so even when it was new the service dept most likely wouldn’t have a clue! MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

5th Mar 2018 11:43 am

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

and yet there are so many components that are still active across the JLR range (indicator and wiper stalks, steering wheel, console dials for climate etc, some mechanicals, even the Meridian system is the same but the newer models present it differently on the screen.

5th Mar 2018 12:50 pm

allsorts

Member Since: 04 Nov 2015
Location: North Pennines
Posts: 12

2015 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Loire Blue

RogB wrote:

LR have a issued a bulletin to make an addition to the wiring loom (technical bulletin LTB00841V2 released in March 2016) Take that reference to your local LR dealer and it should be a free of charge modification.

Thanks for that reference which leads to part LR081691. That appears to be a about £25 + VAT each and you need two, if you can get them, hens teeth are probably easier.

RogB wrote:

this change to the loom is to prevent bulbs from blowing which is very common on the HB3 Halogens, so it may allow you to fit brighter Halogen bulbs with fear of them blowing or melting.

Halogen bulbs do not take kindly to being thumped when running. The shutter that provides the change from dip to main beam doesn't half operate with a whack and is right next to the bulb. This resistance wire "fix" will under run the bulbs and make them a little less sensitive to being thumped. It will reduce the light output, but that might not be noticeable. A proper cure could be to stop the shutter mechanisium being so violent.

I tried a pair of Halfords +120%, HB3's, great light, lasted 6 weeks... Got a refund on both, Halfords were becoming aware of the problem but hadn't stopped selling to LR's at that point (Feb 17). Fitted some generic, ordinary, HB3's from TMS Motor Spares (£9.82 inc VAT the pair), one has just blown, hence visting the forum to see if LED or a fix was available.

The resistance mod might extend the life of the (over run) "super bright" bulbs to that of bog standard. The LTB is quite specific and insistent about how this resistance cable should be installed. I get the impression it gets quite hot, not sure I like that.

When I replace the bulbs I'll have a look at the wiring for the shutter solenoid and see if it's pratical to fit a "soft start" circuit. From cleaning out the bit's of exploded bulb last time I don't think the return spring is very powerful. Cheers
Dave.

Current :14 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Tech
Previous: Y Disco II TD5 ES, 04 Disco II Landmark.

8th Apr 2018 10:22 am

Rnd2

Member Since: 06 Apr 2015
Location: South wales
Posts: 95

2013 Freelander 2 TD4_e Dynamic Manual Santorini Black

HB3

Hi i get my bulbs from Power bulbs ,one year guarantee and I haven’t had one blow ,Phillips night breaker in at the moment,very pleased 😃

10th Apr 2018 6:17 pm

JulesK

Member Since: 07 Dec 2014
Location: Ceredigion.
Posts: 1664

RogB. Booked in for light fix today and extra looms will be there this week
In stock according to service dept. If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

10th Apr 2018 6:39 pm

allsorts

Member Since: 04 Nov 2015
Location: North Pennines
Posts: 12

allsorts wrote:

When I replace the bulbs I'll have a look at the wiring for the shutter solenoid and see if it's pratical to fit a "soft start" circuit. From cleaning out the bit's of exploded bulb last time I don't think the return spring is very powerful.

The shutter solenoid is connected via a small 2 pin connector. What is interesting is that there is something already in the wiring from the connector to solenoid, don't know exactly what as it's under some heat shrink. The look and feel is of a couple of wire crimps and something small and cylindrical.

The return spring isn't overly strong but still causes the shutter to hit its (adjustable) stop moderately hard. Cheers
Dave.

Current :14 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Tech
Previous: Y Disco II TD5 ES, 04 Disco II Landmark.

10th Apr 2018 9:55 pm

robbyvrs

Member Since: 14 Oct 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 430

2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Dynamic Manual Fuji White

JulesK wrote:
RogB. Booked in for light fix today and extra looms will be there this week
In stock according to service dept.

Hi JulesK - are LR charging for this fix?
My bulb has blown today and andrew page say they only have 1 in stock in the country?

Is this the correct bulb for a 2014 model - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-HB3-Halogen....l4275.c10

Cheers

14th Apr 2018 9:25 pm

LR NUT

Member Since: 12 May 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 4350

Yes HB3 is correct bulb for Halogens MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

14th Apr 2018 9:57 pm

robbyvrs

Member Since: 14 Oct 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 430

Thanks - i'm guessing either ring or Osram are the longer lasting ones on the FL

14th Apr 2018 10:04 pm

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