Forum-Gallery-Shop-Sponsors

« Advertise on Freel2.com

Home > Wheels & Tyres > TPMS on winter wheels - my15
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 2 of 4 <1234>
Print this entire topic · 
Telco



Member Since: 30 Dec 2015
Location: Lancs
Posts: 43

2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

I'm not sure if its any help but I've fitted LR066378 to the Metropolis Winter set and they worked straight away.

Post #285730 30th Dec 2015 6:04 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gj100



Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Bristol
Posts: 26

United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

Thanks Gav, that may well indeed be a great help. I will keep you posted of any developments

Gary gj100
Current LR: Freelander2 SD4 Metropolis in Orkney Grey
Previous LR: Evoque Pure Tech SD4 9 speed auto in Indus Silver
Previous LR: Evoque Pure tech SD4 manual in Indus Silver
Previous LR: P38 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue in Bonnati Grey
Still with me: Mercedes CLK in Amber Red Metallic
On loan to me: BMW 420d MSport Coupe in Metallic Black Sapphire

Post #285767 31st Dec 2015 9:57 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Stuartc



Member Since: 01 Dec 2014
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 2292

Australia 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

You need to enter the new TPMS valve identification numbers into the CCF.
There is a service diagnostic session specifically for valve sensor indentification and calibration.



I know! I've Just discovered my spare is not registered with the system and LR have shown me
What's needed to be done. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

Post #286774 11th Jan 2016 8:49 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gj100



Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Bristol
Posts: 26

United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

Thanks Stuart, great to see the Land Rover diagnostic screen

A few questions

1. Was this to send the sensors the 125kHz signal to 'wake them up'
2. What is CCF short for?
3. Can only the LR dealer do this? (I assume you were showing the photograph of their equipment in your picture)
4. How many hours work did they charge you for doing it for your spare?

Regards

Gary gj100
Current LR: Freelander2 SD4 Metropolis in Orkney Grey
Previous LR: Evoque Pure Tech SD4 9 speed auto in Indus Silver
Previous LR: Evoque Pure tech SD4 manual in Indus Silver
Previous LR: P38 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue in Bonnati Grey
Still with me: Mercedes CLK in Amber Red Metallic
On loan to me: BMW 420d MSport Coupe in Metallic Black Sapphire

Post #286937 12th Jan 2016 7:25 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Stuartc



Member Since: 01 Dec 2014
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 2292

Australia 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

1. Was this to send the sensors the 125kHz signal to 'wake them up'
The system does this automatically on the running wheels.

2. What is CCF short for?
Car Configuation File

3. Can only the LR dealer do this? (I assume you were showing the photograph of their equipment in your picture)
Dealer and appropriate diagnostic equipment that you can purchase. Pic was just a shot of the diagnostic session for "TPMS Sensor Identification". I've printed off so that I have a copy of Valve Sensor Codes.

4. How many hours work did they charge you for doing it for your spare?
2 visits to LR, 2 diagnostic sessions on SDD, no charge! MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

Post #287062 13th Jan 2016 3:35 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gj100



Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Bristol
Posts: 26

United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

Thanks Stuart

My UK Land Rover Dealer (Guy Salmon) quoted me 1/2 hour labour at £65 + 20% tax per diagnostic session. Considering I've bought 2 new cars from them and one nearly new in 22 months I thought they could have offered to do it for free!

I will let you know how I get on

Gary gj100
Current LR: Freelander2 SD4 Metropolis in Orkney Grey
Previous LR: Evoque Pure Tech SD4 9 speed auto in Indus Silver
Previous LR: Evoque Pure tech SD4 manual in Indus Silver
Previous LR: P38 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue in Bonnati Grey
Still with me: Mercedes CLK in Amber Red Metallic
On loan to me: BMW 420d MSport Coupe in Metallic Black Sapphire

Post #287103 14th Jan 2016 12:20 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Stuartc



Member Since: 01 Dec 2014
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 2292

Australia 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

It's really quick, less than 10 minutes.
The screen will tell them the codes for the current running wheels and whether the spare is registered.
It's not a diagnostic session it a std "job" listed under "TPMS Identification". The only other listing for this system is "TPMS Calibration". MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

Post #287104 14th Jan 2016 12:28 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gj100



Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Bristol
Posts: 26

United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

Been busy with all the usual challenges of the new year but recently returned to the issue of trying to get TPMS working on my Metropolis with my two extra sets of wheels (don't give me a hard time over having two sets of spare wheels folks...it is just where I ended up for a variety of reasons!)

• 19 inch standard set (TPMS works fine even after the wheels are removed, left off the car for months, swapped around randomly and then refitted)
• 18 inch with winter tyres (I had this spare set already before I bought the car) I may go without TPMS on these and put up with a flashing light for 4 months of the year
• 17 inch with all season tyres (as a more comfortable alternative to the standard 19 inch wheels/tyres)) - I want to get TMPS working on these at least

The following sums up the information I have so far

• LR058023 sensors are wrong part number for MY15 UK Freelander (purchased second hand, emitted 433MHz signal but not compatible)
• Programmable cloning using i-sensor does not work on MY15 FL2 (at time of writing but I'm sure i-sensor will update their product in future to cover more car types)
• LR066378 is the right part number* for MY15 UK FL2 (applies both to all models whether fitted with 32PSI 18 inch wheels/tyres or 35PSI 19 inch wheels/tyres)
• LR066378 purchased direct from LR at £55+VAT are no more expensive than programmable copy part i-sensors (from £50 to £75 locally here in Bristol) and a lot cheaper than a TMPS sensor for a Hyundai (£110)

* Info from what you told me (Gav) and from Guy Salmon Stratford (Guy Salmon Bristol very vague on this so I sought advice from elsewhere)

So my concern now is, when I get a set of LR066378 sensors and fit them to my 18 inch or 17 inch 32PSI tyres how do I tell my car that 32PSI is now the correct pressure and not the 35PSI from the 19 inch alloys?

One experiment I could do is refit my 19 inch wheels/tyres, lower the pressure from 35 PSI to 32 PSI all round and see if the car a) notices or b) adjusts

Guy Salmon Stratford say it is something I can change as an owner using the menu system on my car but I can't find this anywhere.

I think it must be settable only by the dealer using the CCF file that Stuart told me all about. But since my local dealer is vague about it and Guy Salmon Stratford think I should be able to change it, I'm worried that even LR dealers don't completely know what they are doing on this!

Help or suggestions please before I fork out £55+VAT x 4 plus some garage labour time.

Regards

Gary gj100
Current LR: Freelander2 SD4 Metropolis in Orkney Grey
Previous LR: Evoque Pure Tech SD4 9 speed auto in Indus Silver
Previous LR: Evoque Pure tech SD4 manual in Indus Silver
Previous LR: P38 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue in Bonnati Grey
Still with me: Mercedes CLK in Amber Red Metallic
On loan to me: BMW 420d MSport Coupe in Metallic Black Sapphire

Post #292753 6th Mar 2016 10:31 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Wireworld



Member Since: 17 Feb 2011
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 65

United Kingdom 

I don't think that this needs dealer or CCF intervention at all. I had LR sensors fitted to my winter wheels by a local tyre place and each time I swap the wheels the car recognises them and monitors them. I know this because I have no error messages and have had low pressures in individual wheels of both sets at one time or another which have activated the tpms warning system. I never had any dealer or CCF input into this.

Post #292755 6th Mar 2016 10:51 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gj100



Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Bristol
Posts: 26

United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

Thanks Martin, that is useful information in a number of ways, but, may I ask, are you swapping between one set of 19 inch Tyres and another set of 19 inch tyres?

(If you are, then the 'correct' pressure your system is looking for would be staying the same at 35PSI. In my case I would be swapping from 19 inch tyres with a correct pressure of 35PSI to 17 or 18 inch tyres with a correct pressure of 32 PSI) gj100
Current LR: Freelander2 SD4 Metropolis in Orkney Grey
Previous LR: Evoque Pure Tech SD4 9 speed auto in Indus Silver
Previous LR: Evoque Pure tech SD4 manual in Indus Silver
Previous LR: P38 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue in Bonnati Grey
Still with me: Mercedes CLK in Amber Red Metallic
On loan to me: BMW 420d MSport Coupe in Metallic Black Sapphire

Post #292759 6th Mar 2016 11:21 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Wireworld



Member Since: 17 Feb 2011
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 65

United Kingdom 

Not sure if the question was for me or Martin but my winter wheels are 17' set at 2.2 bar and the summer ones are 19" set at 2.4 bar.

Post #292761 6th Mar 2016 11:24 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gj100



Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Bristol
Posts: 26

United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

Yes the question was for you Wireworld not Martin (apologies got a bit confused there)

Your answer is VERY useful indeed!

Many thanks!

I'll let you know how I get on when I do the same

When dealers don't have the full information this forum is so valuable! (One of the good things to come out of the internet age!)

Regards

Gary gj100
Current LR: Freelander2 SD4 Metropolis in Orkney Grey
Previous LR: Evoque Pure Tech SD4 9 speed auto in Indus Silver
Previous LR: Evoque Pure tech SD4 manual in Indus Silver
Previous LR: P38 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue in Bonnati Grey
Still with me: Mercedes CLK in Amber Red Metallic
On loan to me: BMW 420d MSport Coupe in Metallic Black Sapphire

Post #292767 6th Mar 2016 11:56 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Telco



Member Since: 30 Dec 2015
Location: Lancs
Posts: 43

2015 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Orkney Grey

yes what Wireworld said. Fit the LR066378 and when you swap the wheels make sure that it's at least 15 mins
between when you switched the ignition off with the old wheels and when you switch it back on again again with the new wheels. This ensures that the system will accept the new sensors.

p.s Dan@Duckworths did a set of 4 for £214 all in.

Post #292859 7th Mar 2016 10:11 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
pcheaven



Member Since: 19 Jan 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 

agreed, I suspect it the newer cars that autodetect the TPMS - 

Post #292860 7th Mar 2016 10:20 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
pcheaven



Member Since: 19 Jan 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 1459

United Kingdom 

gj100 wrote:
Been busy with all the usual challenges of the new year but recently returned to the issue of trying to get TPMS working on my Metropolis with my two extra sets of wheels (don't give me a hard time over having two sets of spare wheels folks...it is just where I ended up for a variety of reasons!)

• 19 inch standard set (TPMS works fine even after the wheels are removed, left off the car for months, swapped around randomly and then refitted)
• 18 inch with winter tyres (I had this spare set already before I bought the car) I may go without TPMS on these and put up with a flashing light for 4 months of the year
• 17 inch with all season tyres (as a more comfortable alternative to the standard 19 inch wheels/tyres)) - I want to get TMPS working on these at least

The following sums up the information I have so far

• LR058023 sensors are wrong part number for MY15 UK Freelander (purchased second hand, emitted 433MHz signal but not compatible)
• Programmable cloning using i-sensor does not work on MY15 FL2 (at time of writing but I'm sure i-sensor will update their product in future to cover more car types)
• LR066378 is the right part number* for MY15 UK FL2 (applies both to all models whether fitted with 32PSI 18 inch wheels/tyres or 35PSI 19 inch wheels/tyres)
• LR066378 purchased direct from LR at £55+VAT are no more expensive than programmable copy part i-sensors (from £50 to £75 locally here in Bristol) and a lot cheaper than a TMPS sensor for a Hyundai (£110)


Gary


Interesting, I just spoke with Harwoods Tonbridge parts service, and they confirmed that LR058023 is the correct part for the DS, though the part number changed to LR066378 - so its one and the same item Confused 

Post #292870 7th Mar 2016 12:06 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 2 of 4 <1234>
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
Freel2.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site