I hope LR are taking notes  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

ttc546 wrote:

Got quite a list here!

I want to see:

The radio/telephone system integrated into the Sat Nav screen to give a single control system using Touch-Screen. The current 2 units look at odds with each other and not cohesive.

Much more computer info in the digital display in between the dials. Like: Distance since last start, Av MPG this trip, Current mpg at the time, Time elapsed since last start etc. Could all be displayed in the SatNav screen also.

Centre dash (radio unit area) to be made of a higher quality plastic, or covered in the metal finish of the dashboard strips.

The rear boot roller blind cannot be removed if the Cargo barrier is in place. This means that you either keep the cargo barrier in place all the time, which is a pain when the dogs are in the car, or you take it out all the time, which is a concern for cargo security

The dash lighting colur to be changed to an amber or blue or something more modern and clean looking.

Cover for centre console storage

The 4WD axle graphic as displayed on the Discovery SatNav screen. Shows traction to each wheel etc.

Bigger/faster engine option

Higher torque in the upper range

SatNav upgrade to include - 3D graphics option, Roads displayed as thicker curvier lines rather than blocky lines, Motorways displayed as Blue (its bleedin confusing to see a motorway in yellow against other red roads.), Menus to be re-arranged (it takes too many presses to setup a destination), Cancelling a Route is buried deep in the menus. should be one press on the screen. More Preferences options.

SatNav startup screen should be able to startup to display the clock straight away (or any other preference). I hate it starting up with the Nav/Settings/Screensaver menus.

Ability to upload a screensaver picture of choice (sd card slot to display .jpgs)

Front Right hand arm rest on door to be at same level as left hand arm rest (if fitted). They are different levels at the moment.

Electric rear door option - lifts boot door at the press of a button on the key. This happens on my wifes Lexus RX and it is fantastic for when your arms are loaded with shopping or have dogs etc.

Remove the Start/Stop button - or move it to the steering wheel. It is just not ergonomic.

Make the Ignition key fob thing smaller - much smaller. Its like carrying a brick in my pocket.

Lower rear boot cargo floor and sill.

Smaller steering wheel

Front and rear LED lighting.

Mate - I'm surprised you bought one  08 Santorini Black HSE manual with DAB and privacy glass

ttc546 wrote:

Smaller steering wheel

The wheel does already move up down in out doesnt it?.
I thought Id miss having a leather steering wheel, (its not an option on it own) but to be honest the standard wheel is quite soft touch so don't mind it. But it would have been nice to have a leather wheel option without buying a HSE.

ttc546 wrote:

Got quite a list here!

I want to see:

The radio/telephone system integrated into the Sat Nav screen to give a single control system using Touch-Screen. The current 2 units look at odds with each other and not cohesive.

Much more computer info in the digital display in between the dials. Like: Distance since last start, Av MPG this trip, Current mpg at the time, Time elapsed since last start etc. Could all be displayed in the SatNav screen also.

Centre dash (radio unit area) to be made of a higher quality plastic, or covered in the metal finish of the dashboard strips.

The rear boot roller blind cannot be removed if the Cargo barrier is in place. This means that you either keep the cargo barrier in place all the time, which is a pain when the dogs are in the car, or you take it out all the time, which is a concern for cargo security

The dash lighting colur to be changed to an amber or blue or something more modern and clean looking.

Cover for centre console storage

The 4WD axle graphic as displayed on the Discovery SatNav screen. Shows traction to each wheel etc.

Bigger/faster engine option

Higher torque in the upper range

SatNav upgrade to include - 3D graphics option, Roads displayed as thicker curvier lines rather than blocky lines, Motorways displayed as Blue (its bleedin confusing to see a motorway in yellow against other red roads.), Menus to be re-arranged (it takes too many presses to setup a destination), Cancelling a Route is buried deep in the menus. should be one press on the screen. More Preferences options.

SatNav startup screen should be able to startup to display the clock straight away (or any other preference). I hate it starting up with the Nav/Settings/Screensaver menus.

Ability to upload a screensaver picture of choice (sd card slot to display .jpgs)

Front Right hand arm rest on door to be at same level as left hand arm rest (if fitted). They are different levels at the moment.

Electric rear door option - lifts boot door at the press of a button on the key. This happens on my wifes Lexus RX and it is fantastic for when your arms are loaded with shopping or have dogs etc.

Remove the Start/Stop button - or move it to the steering wheel. It is just not ergonomic.

Make the Ignition key fob thing smaller - much smaller. Its like carrying a brick in my pocket.

Lower rear boot cargo floor and sill.

Smaller steering wheel

Front and rear LED lighting.

Oh, and another thing. Who decided to put those aliens on the bonnet staring up at you? ! Windscreen washer jets these days are positioned under the bonnet edge by the windscreen. Its really disconcerting to see those things in your eyeline .... Are they watching me .....  Chris

Did you buy your fl2 by mail order /while sleep walking or something? Its normal to forget a few things about your car between the purchase and its arrival but not everything! If you don't like dont buy!

chicken george wrote:

Did you buy your fl2 by mail order /while sleep walking or something? Its normal to forget a few things about your car between the purchase and its arrival but not everything! If you don't like dont buy!

Hey, I'm not complaining about the car. All cars can be improved, even my £55k Porsche had issues. But I don't walk around with rose-coloured specs either. To be fair, the list I have done is just minor stuff and could easily be done in a FL3 model or facelift. The original poster asked for what features - and I have responded honestly but positively. You can't honstly tell me that the alien jet washers are in the right place and not in your eyeline!

Believe me, I love the car - but no car is perfect. (ok, maybe the Bugatti Veyron cuts the mustard!)  Chris

I quite like my alien jet washers they make the snow blue on my bonnet when its snowed Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

CG, who let the posers and whiners on this site, anyway I've got a porch a porch light and some spaghetti!  Freelander 2 - SE
Sumatra Black - TD4 -4X4 Jack Russel in boot.

ttc546 wrote:

ttc546 wrote:

Got quite a list here!

I want to see:

The radio/telephone system integrated into the Sat Nav screen to give a single control system using Touch-Screen. The current 2 units look at odds with each other and not cohesive.

Much more computer info in the digital display in between the dials. Like: Distance since last start, Av MPG this trip, Current mpg at the time, Time elapsed since last start etc. Could all be displayed in the SatNav screen also.

Centre dash (radio unit area) to be made of a higher quality plastic, or covered in the metal finish of the dashboard strips.

The rear boot roller blind cannot be removed if the Cargo barrier is in place. This means that you either keep the cargo barrier in place all the time, which is a pain when the dogs are in the car, or you take it out all the time, which is a concern for cargo security

The dash lighting colur to be changed to an amber or blue or something more modern and clean looking.

Cover for centre console storage

The 4WD axle graphic as displayed on the Discovery SatNav screen. Shows traction to each wheel etc.

Bigger/faster engine option

Higher torque in the upper range

SatNav upgrade to include - 3D graphics option, Roads displayed as thicker curvier lines rather than blocky lines, Motorways displayed as Blue (its bleedin confusing to see a motorway in yellow against other red roads.), Menus to be re-arranged (it takes too many presses to setup a destination), Cancelling a Route is buried deep in the menus. should be one press on the screen. More Preferences options.

SatNav startup screen should be able to startup to display the clock straight away (or any other preference). I hate it starting up with the Nav/Settings/Screensaver menus.

Ability to upload a screensaver picture of choice (sd card slot to display .jpgs)

Front Right hand arm rest on door to be at same level as left hand arm rest (if fitted). They are different levels at the moment.

Electric rear door option - lifts boot door at the press of a button on the key. This happens on my wifes Lexus RX and it is fantastic for when your arms are loaded with shopping or have dogs etc.

Remove the Start/Stop button - or move it to the steering wheel. It is just not ergonomic.

Make the Ignition key fob thing smaller - much smaller. Its like carrying a brick in my pocket.

Lower rear boot cargo floor and sill.

Smaller steering wheel

Front and rear LED lighting.

Oh, and another thing. Who decided to put those aliens on the bonnet staring up at you? ! Windscreen washer jets these days are positioned under the bonnet edge by the windscreen. Its really disconcerting to see those things in your eyeline .... Are they watching me .....

Oh dear - you bought the wrong car  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

I don't think the list of things is too bad

Things like the satnav would be great to show the things that have been listed, The 4x4 status, the Telephone buttons to dial with and send texts, fuel range left, avg mpg, current mpg, timer 3D graphics instead of bird eye view, even a Hybrid TV.

Theses are things that the other Land Rovers such as the D3, RRS & FFRR have, but we don't even in the top of the range HSE.

I wouldn't say it bad as it is, but i would have liked the few of the above myself, does that mean i have chosen the wrong car  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

npinks wrote:

I don't think the list of things is too bad

I wouldn't say it bad as it is, but i would have liked the few of the above myself, does that mean i have chosen the wrong car

Ok, maybe I was being a bit unfair I fact, being realy honest there are one or two features I would have liked (or rather miss from my old BMW) However all cars are not the same and when one makes a choice for a new drive, you have to accept the differences and not wish this and that
I think the list of wishes ttc546 wrote looked a bit like a dream list one writes to Santa at Christmas - now thats not a bad idea, but send to Land Rover (Tata) instead  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

Blimey, I seem to have rattled a few peoples cages here on this one! Not intentionally certainly.

On other car forums I've frequented over the years - TT-Forum, Z4Forum, Boxa.net, CaymanClub.net, etc, they all post these types of lists and no one fires back to defend the "sacred cow!" quite so vigourously as here. Some of the personal comments received back are very unecessary and not at all friendly. That surprised me.

I BOUGHT THE RIGHT CAR - just so we are very clear on this!

However, a lot of car manufacturers already have some of the aspects I have listed. BMW have the iDrive (ok, its had its critics), but it integrates a lot of the features I have listed for SatNav/Info/Radio etc.

Is it a wish list? Maybe. But isn't that what the original posters topic is meant to ask? Some things on the LR2 are just not right and need to be fixed, some things are "wants" and "wishes" and some things are just what the market now dicates as "standard".

As I have said before - I love my FL2! (but it ain't perfect.!)  Chris

 Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

My final post on this thread ....

I will bet my next tank of deisel (about £76 ) that someone from LR Marketing reads this Forum. I know that some other manufacturers read their brands forums out there.

When I had the Audi, the TT-Forum site owner - Jae, was invited by the Product Marketing Manager to Audi HQ in Milton Keynes, together with some other forum members. I was one of those who went. Our input about the TT was much appreciated by them. A great rapport was established and a contining communication was had between the Forum and Audi. So much so, that when the Mk2 TT was launched, certain members of the Forum (not me coz I had changed cars many times by then) were invited to preview the new TT BEFORE the UK Launch and others, like some of the press, had seen it. And, the Forum seniors knew much of the detailed info BEFORE release to the Press.

Wouldn't it be nice to think that LR reads this forum, takes notes of the features we would like to see, and adds them to the next FL release, inviting us to preview before the launch - and that we get to hear all the news about anything that is going on throughout the year before any one else.

So keep the list active and growing. Who knows who might be reading and taking notes. Chris