That's the trouble with most of these arguaments - they contain some degree of fact.
Your Vegitarian friend was right by the way - auto's are better

Global warming or whatever it's called this week (changed the name to suit the new "facts"?) - some will never be convinced, especially bloody minded, selfish, shortsighted, Northerners who live on a hill in a climate known for its changability.


At this point I did type a long load of about the rights of those in the developing world, but deleated it in case someone thought I was getting moderate / reasonable in my old age. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

but whether you are for or against, believe in cyclic or man made environmental change....

we all can't be that bothered as we still own a 4x4 and not prius or a pedal bike!

i need a van for work, but "her indoors" is in for a shock when she has to ride to work in the morning

You got a point there matt...

Never mind the Eco warriors check out this post range rover vs scoobynet

Linky: http://bbs.scoobynet.com/other-marques-33/...sport.html Ex-2009 Freelander 2 HSE Auto owner

christian138 wrote:

Suck it up and move on

Stompy
Enthralling inane bickering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyaA5I9IvPo

This guy goes on a while, but stick with it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk

And Top Gear talking possibly the most sense they ever have  Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

Big Dave
Good enjoyable links there - and importantly - they help to dispel the myth that small + hybrid must equal environmentally friendly motoring.

A car alone does not achieve that goal - you do - by using whatever you drive astutely until the day dawns when there is a proven practical eco friendly fuel source and vehicle (other than walking or the bicycle) which cancels our dependance upon fossil fuels.

Think I'll spend some time tomorrow polishing the beasts in garage ready for the summer alpine hairpin blasts.

A traffic warden was about to ticket me last week in Coventry, in about the only free spaces in the centre, because the bays were electric cars and hybrids only!!! They have silly metal posts with blue lights on the top at about every cars length to charge the crappy things.

I'm gonna go round ticketing Prius's like the eco mentalists do to 4x4's  Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

Well I listened to CG et al and have decided to do my bit for the Earths future by not using the caravan on my next holiday and also not driving round in my fuel gobbling eco monster.
Instead I shall fly to Barbados tomorrow and cruise round the Caribbean for two weeks
I don't suppose cruise ships use much fuel do they

Tandemman wrote:

I don't suppose cruise ships use much fuel do they

who cares its miles away  At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Yeah you Off on your cruise ship and get a nice sun tan, not caring about us left here in the snow, been choked to death on fumes from nasty 4x4

I hope you get sunburn









Ok ok I wish it was me  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis