48 in a 40, guess thats £60 and 3 points then  freelander 2 SE black and beige - now sold

Sorry to hear that.

Not necessarily will you get a fine and points. It depends on where in the country you get flashed and whether that area is running the scheme that allows you to take a speed awareness course.

I got flashed doing 35 in a 30. Fair cop I thought but I was pleased to be offered the chance of a speed awareness course. Cost £75 but then no points. I took that. The extra £15 was worth no points as my licence is otherwise clean.

Good course too. I don't speed at all now out of habit (only accidental if not paying attention and always kick myself when I catch myself over the limit).

s7gpt wrote:

48 in a 40, guess thats £60 and 3 points then

Being as you have got nothing to lose by trying, ask the council or police (whoever is in charge of the camera) to show you the calibration certificate. If the calibration is not accurate and/or has not been checked for a while, there is a loophole in the law which means they can't enforce the ticket because the camera may be giving a false reading.

Worth a try  LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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In my force area, you will not be shown the calibration certificate, it will be produced in court if required. You can however make an appointment to go and see the photgraphic evidence prior to court or paying any fine.

speed camera? whats that then, N.Yorks is too civilised for such things . The police just hide in the bushes and get you with hand held guns instead.

not had a point on my licence since 1998 , that was in S.Yorks , speed camera whilst I was in a traffic jam....dont ask  At work
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Points in a traffic jam. How come?

I have a built in radar detector out of my Evo im selling if anyone wants it
I drive too much like a granny in the Freelander to warrant the cost of installation.

Oh that's right, they're not allowed in the UK (legally anyway ) DOH!

my mate tried to argue that he wasnt driving his car at the time of being caught by a speed camera, in the end he lost and the fine shot up to £270!!

AiiEEX wrote:

Points in a traffic jam. How come?

I was driving to a footy match,stuck in traffic spent a while tuning in to local radio for pre-match report, looked up long gap had opened up infront , feeling daft I rushed to catch up, right past a 30 mph camera
I blame my Girlfriend at the time she should have tuned the radio in and if her legs had been less nice I would have been concentrating better (and would have had more sleep the night before ) At work
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s7gpt wrote:

48 in a 40, guess thats £60 and 3 points then

Not necessarily, just cos it has flashed doesn't mean you will hear anything, you have a 14 day wait in which to yourself

dont forget that you must recieve a NIP withim 14 days or its not valid and you can refuse to accept the punishment guilty or not

quote

NIP - Notice Of Intended Prosecution.
This is that all important bit that people keep asking me about. It pertains to the 14 day rule that surrounds service of an NIP. As with all traffic offences in the UK, an NIP is required for prosecution to proceed. If you're stopped at the scene however (for example, by a radar-gun-toting traffic policeman), then a verbal NIP is sufficient. Otherwise it must be in writing. So theoretically, if you've not heard anything after 3 weeks, you got away with it. Not, of course, that the police don't get the calculations wrong from time to time - there's no better way to knock the smile off a prosecutors face than to ask if they can prove service of an NIP.
In order to remove some of the mystery from this area - or cast it into a murky grey area depending on your view of things, here are the relevant excerpts from Butterworth's Police Law (Butterworth's Law; ISBN 0406981469). Thanks to Simon Hepworth for help with this information.
Stuff not of interest to the subject of speeding have been omitted, stuff with particular relevance to NIPs and speeding has been underlined


http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/Rules_useage/The_Law.htm if you want to read more

as it was one of those forward facing speed cams - i understand they use digitasl photos and dont run out of film

will do the driving course though if i get chance  freelander 2 SE black and beige - now sold

Junior wrote:

s7gpt wrote:

48 in a 40, guess thats £60 and 3 points then

Not necessarily, just cos it has flashed doesn't mean you will hear anything, you have a 14 day wait in which to yourself

If you were in West Yorks, they don't offer the alternative to points. I know this from recent experience...

WEST YORKSHIRE CASUALTY REDUCTION PARTNERSHIP wrote:

Question

I’ve heard that in some areas you can take an ’improved driving’ course that costs more than the fine but means you don’t get the penalty points.

Answer

Some police authorities do offer ’speed awareness’ courses as an alternative to penalty points and a fine for speed offences. There is currently no nationally agreed ’speed awareness’ course or method of referral to the course. West Yorkshire Police is currently piloting a speed awareness course with the Kirklees Council’s Driver Training Unit. Whilst the partnership is supportive of the use of effective courses of this type in suitable circumstances, it is currently prevented from referring drivers caught on safety cameras to a speed awareness course. The Government is looking into standardising speed awareness courses and methods of referral of drivers. Until the Government makes some decisions (which will become law), the partnership’s hands are tied.

was in leeds coming from white rose, typical, really wanted to do the course rather than 3 points on my 'clean licence'  freelander 2 SE black and beige - now sold

The quote from Butterworths is a bit too concise. There are a lot of if's and but's with NIP's like circumstances outwith the Filths control or where the accused has contributed to the delay, like failing to inform the DVLA that they arethe keeper of the vehicle or where numerous NIP's were required to ascertain the driver. E.g a car rental company. The trouble with the instant experts online is thatthey normally lack the LLB qualification.