Hi all

Apologies if it has been covered but I don't really know what it is called so it's hard to search for it.

The Td4 Freelander 2 has an economy stop-start mode which is on by default, you can switch it off on the button but then it comes back on for the next ignition cycle, whereas if I switch something off I expect it to stay off until I switch it back on again.

Is there a way to switch it off by default, in other words reverse it so that it is off all the time unless you switch it on with the dash button? The user manual helpfully doesn't mention it at all (the dash diagram in the handbook doesn't even show the button!) and the quick start guide seems to be the only place it is mentioned but it just says how to switch it off, not how (or whether) you can kill it so it stays off.

Thanks

BM

Pretty sure there is not. The road tax is slightly cheaper due to this function however that increased by £25 in the year I have had it.

Once you have owned it a while turning it off on start up becomes a habbit just like inserting the key in the ignition!! (Past) Freelander 2 HSE 2010 MY In Rimini Red.
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Thanks. No tax implications in this part of the world and it's just irritating so I wondered if it can be done away with. It's not actually my own vehicle I am trying to find out for somebody else who has got one.

Why on earth do you want to have it turned off - I have a non LR car with this stop start and I think it's great, sure there are times when I disable it (slow moving stopping traffic) but other than that I let it do what it's supposed to do and save a tiny bit of fuel. (No i'm not a tree hugger )
It's now on some German automatics so it's not going to 'go away'

The driver finds it annoying, and so would I if I had one

Diesel here is only 50p a litre and it's windy here so the environmental saving is nowt worth having

Oh for ye olde days when you could disable something irritating with a claw hammer... "Warning light on at me would ya .. ya want some ... come on then <krash>"

The cost of diesel has nowt to do with the environment, it's what comes out the exhaust pipe and what gets pushed into the atmosphere is the air I breath as well as his.

Environmental rant over and no it can't be turned off.

It would be an awful long time before you breathed his or my exhaust fumes in East Yorkshire and anyway you made the ozone hole that I get sunburned through so it's payback time

So ... it appears it can't be disabled easily but I have already found some possible avenues for doing it myself - making the vehicle think it has a trailer fitted seems to be one way.

Another way is to fool it into thinking it is less than 4 degrees outside by altering the resistance of the thermistor under the door mirror.

LR lent me a TD4e during my last mugging, sorry, service! I feel I might be getting a reputation for being simple, but I'm sure all I had to do was press an e-mode switch on the dash to toggle the stop/start on and off. The novelty soon wore off and it therefore remained off for the rest of the day. This was a manual shift car so don't know what happens on auto. I think manual had to be in neutral with hand-brake on for it to activate.

Eco Stop Start is currently only fitted to the manual.

Hands up! I should have fully read the previous posts (however, I did hint that I was not always there). I suspect the designer of the system lives in the same village as me, where the crossing gates at the local railway station (on the London-Portsmouth line) are usually closed to road traffic for over 30 minutes in every hour. It's one of those 'do I or don't I' decisions to stop the engine. At least the TD4-e makes the decision for you so that when the gates are closed for over 10 minutes (quite normal) you can feel smug but when it is only 30 seconds (we wish!) you can question the parentage of the LR2 designers. I'm off on a complimentary LR Experience course next week (and boy, do I need it!) so I might ask an 'expert' if they know.

Found this thread as its one of those things that irritates me about my FL2. Nobody seems to have answered the question.

So can you switch Td4 stop start e-mode off by default? or remove a fuse etc legally ?  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

You just need a Renault like my B in L. He has stop start and one of these smart alternators, it's been back three times because it won't stop start most of the time. According to the mechanic the last time it was in the stop start needs at least 80% charge in the battery to work but the smart alternator is only charging the battery to 75% in normal daytime running and they don't know how to change it. Mine, Saab convertible
Hers, MY08 GS auto

Disconnecting the BMS wire at battery would do the trick, will show ECO fault, but then so will any other method 2014 SE Loire Blue SD4 Auto (MY15)
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Gone - 2007 GS Narvik Black, Privacy Glass, 19" SC's, Side Steps,Roof Rails, Roof Spoiler, Lamp Guards, Retrofit Electric Leather (Clutch at 115k)
Gone - 2007 SE Santorini Black (Clutch at 120k)
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