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wingit

Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Bucks
Posts: 162

2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Santorini Black

Misting up

Hi all,
I own a FL2 GS 2010 which I picked up this May.

Now that the mornings are getting cooler, I've used the Maximum Defrost Program (Prog. button) to help clear the frost off the windscreen.
This button activates the fan, heated wing mirrors and rear screen heat. It works reasonably well, but, the interior of the car gets badly misted, so much so that I have to wipe the interior of both sides and front windscreen before I can move off.

Logic tells me that this is because the "Prog" button turns off the climate control, which allows fresh (damp) air in.

Has anyone else experienced this? Is it normal?
If so, does your car mist up as well?

19th Nov 2010 10:13 am

npinks

Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Ls25
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Prog actually turns the AC on,

I found it's best to have the AC on at this time of year

Also wiping a window will make it take longer to clear, a spot free clean window demist alot quicker Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

19th Nov 2010 10:43 am

AndyT

Member Since: 28 Dec 2008
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 447

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Sumatra Black

I echo Nick's response, although it does depend on whether you have an electrically heated screen (do all models have one?). I find that the prog button is excellent, but you need to let it do it's job and be patient. Give the inside of your screen a thorough clean and then avoid touching it until it next needs a thorough clean.
I never turn off the AC. It is beneficial in winter and probably presents little load on the engine in colder weather since it will rarely be actually in cooling mode.

19th Nov 2010 10:58 am

wingit

Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Bucks
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Thanks for the replies

Just went out to the car. Started it up. I always have A/C on when the car starts.

The last few times I used the Prog. button the A/C light went out!

Turned off A/C and hit the Prog. button and yes, the A/C came on!

Switched off, then on with A/C on and yes, the A/C stayed on.

All I can think it was is possibly a sticky relay or something.

I'll try it again tomorrow morning.

19th Nov 2010 11:18 am

AndyT

Member Since: 28 Dec 2008
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 447

Interesting?
Not sure that's working correctly. Can't check just now as mine's in for MOT, but will check when I get it back.
If it is different, I imagine that a firmware upgrade (always with the firmware!) would resolve it.

19th Nov 2010 11:28 am

AndyC

Member Since: 30 Nov 2007
Location: Where the snow dosen't melt when the sun is shining!
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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Stornoway Grey

Never been a problem here - the prog button always clears the ice, snow, mist and dampness inside and out. In fact its the first car that I never have to scrape iced windows 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

19th Nov 2010 2:29 pm

snappa

Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
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2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Buckingham Blue

Quote:
Also wiping a window will make it take longer to clear, a spot free clean window demist alot quicker

OOhhhh that drives me nuts when someone I am giving a lift decides to 'helpfully' wipe the window with their greasy mitts!

19th Nov 2010 4:48 pm

Big Dave

Member Since: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Yorkshire
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2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Agreed Snappa!

Air Conditioning does also have a slight habit sometimes as soon as it is turned on when the car is started to cough a bit of mist onto the screens but only for a second or 2. Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

19th Nov 2010 5:21 pm

AndyC

Member Since: 30 Nov 2007
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Big Dave wrote:
Agreed Snappa!

Air Conditioning does also have a slight habit sometimes as soon as it is turned on when the car is started to cough a bit of mist onto the screens but only for a second or 2.

Air con all the time and NEVER a mist problem here - must be somthing else ccausing it to mist up

2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

19th Nov 2010 5:33 pm

npinks

Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Ls25
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Possible that something is wet inside the car, check floor mats and carpets Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

19th Nov 2010 6:04 pm

wingit

Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Bucks
Posts: 162

npinks wrote:
Possible that something is wet inside the car, check floor mats and carpets

I'll have a look under the mats, but it's never misted like this before i.e. Every window.

Tried the Prog. again this morning (A/C stayed on) no misting at all!

I'll have to keep my eye on this.

edit; Just checked under the mats and it's bone dry.

20th Nov 2010 10:24 am

MG

Member Since: 09 Sep 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 22

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Zermatt Silver

wingit wrote:
Thanks for the replies

Just went out to the car. Started it up. I always have A/C on when the car starts.

The last few times I used the Prog. button the A/C light went out!

Turned off A/C and hit the Prog. button and yes, the A/C came on!

Switched off, then on with A/C on and yes, the A/C stayed on.

All I can think it was is possibly a sticky relay or something.

I'll try it again tomorrow morning.

Surely the light is on when economy is selected, ie, air con is off. If the light is off, then your air con is switched on. Your description is exactly as I would expect it to work but I'm not sure if your understanding is not 180 degrees out? I certainly don't have any misting problems with the air con on and it gets a lot of use this time of year.

26th Nov 2010 10:45 am

1STFREELANDER

Member Since: 14 Feb 2010
Location: lONDON
Posts: 196

2010 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Most manufactures advise the use of the air con to demist the car as the system removes moisture from the air,
reducing misting up. On some cars we have had it's the only way to stop the screen misting up.

26th Nov 2010 11:15 am

wingit

Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Bucks
Posts: 162

MG wrote:
wingit wrote:
Thanks for the replies

Just went out to the car. Started it up. I always have A/C on when the car starts.

The last few times I used the Prog. button the A/C light went out!

Turned off A/C and hit the Prog. button and yes, the A/C came on!

Switched off, then on with A/C on and yes, the A/C stayed on.

All I can think it was is possibly a sticky relay or something.

I'll try it again tomorrow morning.

Surely the light is on when economy is selected, ie, air con is off. If the light is off, then your air con is switched on. Your description is exactly as I would expect it to work but I'm not sure if your understanding is not 180 degrees out? I certainly don't have any misting problems with the air con on and it gets a lot of use this time of year.

Thanks for the replies

There seems to be a little confusion creeping in

1st off, The A/C is always on in my car (as per the manufacturers recommendations).

2nd. The Econ is always on.

3rd. I have never had any misting problems from day one.

4th. The misting problem occurred twice: Every piece of interior glass was misted.

I couldn't understand why this was happening, until the second time when I noticed that the A/C was off (light off as well). I had not turned it off.

As my A/C is by default always on, I could only assume that when I hit the Prog. button the A/C was somehow turned off.

Either, I by accident hit the A/C button, (not very likely), or it was turned off when I turned on the Prog. button.

It has not happened since, as I always check that the A/C button is still lit after I hit the Prog. button.

Hope this makes things a little clearer.

27th Nov 2010 12:49 pm

wdw

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Reading
Posts: 127

2014 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Loire Blue

wingit wrote:

There seems to be a little confusion creeping in

1st off, The A/C is always on in my car (as per the manufacturers recommendations).

2nd. The Econ is always on.

Well I'm certainly confused The Econ mode switches A/C off in mine (as it says in the handbook).

Bill

27th Nov 2010 3:29 pm

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