Junior wrote:

Marky wrote:

Don't think it matters whether he had a gun or not, he flipped and would have done exactly the same with a knife or iron bar.......... hope he rots in hell.

Condolences to anyone who has lost a loved one or has had someone injured.

Well said! The gun wasn't the killer, The MAN was.

Yes, but a man with a knife doesn't have to potential for mayhem that one with a gun has 

christian138 wrote:

Junior wrote:

Marky wrote:

Don't think it matters whether he had a gun or not, he flipped and would have done exactly the same with a knife or iron bar.......... hope he rots in hell.

Condolences to anyone who has lost a loved one or has had someone injured.

Well said! The gun wasn't the killer, The MAN was.

Yes, but a man with a knife doesn't have to potential for mayhem that one with a gun has

We could go on and on....
You can make a bomb out of household chemicals and the like, that has the potential to kill hundreds, we can't ban fertiliser, bleach and nails because they have the potential to cause mayhem.

What about a MAN flying a plane (or two) into a tall building(s) and killing thousands-there hasn't been a call to ban areoplanes-(all though we now have to take our shoes off at the xray machine and put your aftershave in a see through bag )

Is it not the fact and it has been found to be the case that there is no defence, nor will there ever be a defence against acts of terrorism.

What happened in Cumbria could very easily be described as such. The sad and painful fact is that if someone decides for whatever reason that they are going to make a point, and in that people are going to suffer, there is nothing that anyone can do about it. Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

xtattsbox wrote:

Is it not the fact and it has been found to be the case that there is no defence, nor will there ever be a defence against acts of terrorism.

What happened in Cumbria could very easily be described as such. The sad and painful fact is that if someone decides for whatever reason that they are going to make a point, and in that people are going to suffer, there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

Guns don't kill people, People kill People.

More people are killed by vehicles every year by idiots behind the wheel. Banning firearms would be impracticable as many people need firearms for everyday work. There are plenty illegal F/A out there in the hands of criminals, we should be worried about these. Unfortunatly we cannot do anything about the unknowm person suffering mental illness until its too late. It would have been quit possible for the same number of people to be murdered by use of a kitchen knife!

The reality is that a gun offers more potential for multiple murder than any other weapon, apart from a bomb which requires specialist knowledge to build.

That said our gun laws are amongst the most stringent in the world and that changing them would have little effect apart from inconveniencing legitimate users. The only area that might need tightening might be the periodic evaluation of existing licence holders to ensure that the granting of a licence is still appropriate.

I also think that the outright banning of handguns was a knee jerk step too far and that for legitimate sportsmen as long as stringent conditions are met they should be allowed to participate in their sport. 

christian138 wrote:

a bomb which requires specialist knowledge to build.

At the age of 14 my older brother built and detonated a pipe bomb how much specialist knowlegde is required?  Simon

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Junior wrote:

christian138 wrote:

Junior wrote:

Marky wrote:

Don't think it matters whether he had a gun or not, he flipped and would have done exactly the same with a knife or iron bar.......... hope he rots in hell.

Condolences to anyone who has lost a loved one or has had someone injured.

Well said! The gun wasn't the killer, The MAN was.

Yes, but a man with a knife doesn't have to potential for mayhem that one with a gun has

We could go on and on....
You can make a bomb out of household chemicals and the like, that has the potential to kill hundreds, we can't ban fertiliser, bleach and nails because they have the potential to cause mayhem.

What about a MAN flying a plane (or two) into a tall building(s) and killing thousands-there hasn't been a call to ban areoplanes-(all though we now have to take our shoes off at the xray machine and put your aftershave in a see through bag )

Oh for sake

ITV news now have a video of this bloke diving in the carribean, say stuff along the lines that it doesn't show anything that would indicate a man that was going to shoot dead 11 people and injury others

cause it Doesnt, it's a holiday video of him diving, not a Taliban style video message of him trying to reason his acts

it's bad What he did, but the news people take on a video and how they try to spin a different view on things does my head in  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

The red tops this morning were mainly focusing on the fact he liked to shagg Thai prossies.

On an other note I know you lot are gonna be in uproar but the random killings aside-What a great way to go! when my time's up I wanna take a few of the F@#kers that have done the dirty on me with me too

Junior wrote:

The red tops this morning were mainly focusing on the fact he liked to shagg Thai prossies.

On an other note I know you lot are gonna be in uproar but the random killings aside-What a great way to go! when my time's up I wanna take a few of the F@#kers that have done the dirty on me with me too

mental note: check Junior for weapons on any Freel2 meetup  

npinks wrote:

Oh for sake

ITV news now have a video of this bloke diving in the carribean, say stuff along the lines that it doesn't show anything that would indicate a man that was going to shoot dead 11 people and injury others

cause it Doesnt, it's a holiday video of him diving, not a Taliban style video message of him trying to reason his acts

it's bad What he did, but the news people take on a video and how they try to spin a different view on things does my head in

Nick, they'll (media) spin this to death now for profit and after all, todays newspaper is tomorrows chip paper.

Its probably only a matter of time before this peice of s t's family members sell their soul 'my life with' etc in a well known sunday paper. 2010 FL2 XS Auto in Santorini Black with HSE alloys

Very true

Better not have my cod & chips till all the media BS is over Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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npinks wrote:

Oh for sake


Its probably only a matter of time before this peice of s t's family members sell their soul 'my life with' etc in a well known sunday paper.

*Gets out the popcorn*

This should run and run