you loose power basically, i have done this a couple of times thinking i was in command shift

keep meaning to look in the manual for the official ruling on going from drive to neutral but haven't atm Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

xtattsbox wrote:

The Laird wrote:

So my question is:

What are the effects/consequences of slipping an automatic into Neutral at speed and do you need to touch the brake pedal to achieve it?

Erm death, eventually.

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The vast majority of auto drivers just hold the car on the brake just through lazyness. It takes two seconds to put the hand brake on and knock it into neutral.

a) Avoids heating up of the transmission
b) After long periods of braking the discs will be very hot, holding the car on the brakes keeps disc braking area on the pad hotter than the exposed area of the disc which will cool quicker, which is how you get warped discs
c) Shows consideration to the driver behind staring at your brake lights.
c1) Suffix to item c) if they are BMW or Merc drivers parked behind you ignore all the above and leave your foot on the brake as they will be doing the same to the driver behind them. As they are also always part of the D k head crew that leave their front fog lights on all the time, this will be your payback for you having to stare at their fog lights

npinks wrote:

you loose power basically, i have done this a couple of times thinking i was in command shift

keep meaning to look in the manual for the official ruling on going from drive to neutral but haven't atm

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commando wrote:

Put the car into neutral after a few seconds, not a few minutes as you will just put extra strain on the gearbox and brakes as the car is trying to set off all the time it is in drive.It makes your brake light bulbs last longer as well.

The Laird wrote:

but can anyone answer the question, so I know why I died?

See my post above.
On N, the gearbox will not be lubricated properly, due to the working pressure going down about 10 times. It's like running an engine with not enough oil. Death, hot and smelly.

The Laird wrote:

I have a question and thought this might be the right thread to tag it on to.

A hot topic at the moment is the problem with accelerator stick at Toyota .

So my question is:

What are the effects/consequences of slipping an automatic into Neutral at speed and do you need to touch the brake pedal to achieve it?

Just bumping my question

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i should have added to my reply above, that you don't need to touch the brake, it just allows you to shift to neutral

whether this does any harm, i have done it at motorway speeds, without any problem, I'll let a more technical person answer  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

The Laird wrote:

The Laird wrote:

I have a question and thought this might be the right thread to tag it on to.

A hot topic at the moment is the problem with accelerator stick at Toyota .

So my question is:

What are the effects/consequences of slipping an automatic into Neutral at speed and do you need to touch the brake pedal to achieve it?

Just bumping my question

Can anyone answer it?

I guess the damage won't happen instantly, but the lack of proper lubrication will eventually build up some wear and tear within the box. Some car makers specifically warn against the practice, Subaru being among them.

For the same reason, long-distance towing on N is not advised by LR.

xtattsbox wrote:

The Laird wrote:

The Laird wrote:

I have a question and thought this might be the right thread to tag it on to.

A hot topic at the moment is the problem with accelerator stick at Toyota .

So my question is:

What are the effects/consequences of slipping an automatic into Neutral at speed and do you need to touch the brake pedal to achieve it?

Just bumping my question

Can anyone answer it?

Simple. If you put the car in neutral there is no drive to the wheels, no engine braking. If anything happened that required you to react quickly, you would not be able to. The braking would rely completely on the brakes. Features like the DSC and Anti Roll over thing rely on drive to the wheels.

Sooo. Simply put, you will eventually get in a whole shed load of trouble.

Thanks xtattsbox

The situation that I was thinking of was that I was already in a shed load of trouble (as I said Toyota has a problem of sticking accelerator so what would you do if faced with the same problem?)

So, my situation is I'm driving at 70 mph (maybe in Cruise) and something jams and FL2 will not slow down. In a Manual I would select neutral (something I have done many times even without a problem).

I have never done it with an Automatic.

I still want to know if I should touch brake pedal to do it, or can I just slip it in Neutral without any consequences, other than:

a) no drive to wheels - that is what I wanted to achieve

b) no DSC and Anti Roll - I guess not but in situation I already have a prob

c) no engine braking - that's interesting; the engine is running (I haven't turned it off) so is that statement correct?

d) if c is correct, then will I have lost power steering?

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The Laird wrote:

So, my situation is I'm driving at 70 mph (maybe in Cruise) and something jams and FL2 will not slow down. In a Manual I would select neutral (something I have done many times even without a problem).

I have never done it with an Automatic.

I still want to know if I should touch brake pedal to do it, or can I just slip it in Neutral without any consequences, other than:

a) no drive to wheels - that is what I wanted to achieve

b) no DSC and Anti Roll - I guess not but in situation I already have a prob

c) no engine braking - that's interesting; the engine is running (I haven't turned it off) so is that statement correct?

d) if c is correct, then will I have lost power steering?

Sorry, one question leads to many (but I don't want to be typing on here when it happens

The Laird wrote:

c) no engine braking - that's interesting; the engine is running (I haven't turned it off) so is that statement correct?

d) if c is correct, then will I have lost power steering?

Sorry, one question leads to many (but I don't want to be typing on here when it happens

Can you put the auto into neutral at 70 mph? Stornaway grey SE auto with 18" alloys

Matthius wrote:

Bear in mind, that only D provides the box with sufficent pressure for proper lubrication. Switching to P or N makes it drop from about 50psi to 5psi. Before you move again on D, it'll take some time to build up the pressure back to its working level.