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waaxh03



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[quote="christian138"]

AndyC wrote:

The British way is not to complain but attempt a solution yourself, even if it is a bit Heath Robinson Thumbs Up


Was Heath Robinson British then?

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[quote="waaxh03"]

christian138 wrote:
AndyC wrote:

The British way is not to complain but attempt a solution yourself, even if it is a bit Heath Robinson Thumbs Up


Was Heath Robinson British then?

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Post #32623 5th Dec 2008 8:32 pm
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Nope just English :-

William Heath Robinson (1872 - 1944)
28th December 1929: Artist and cartoonist William Heath Robinson
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waaxh03



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christian138 wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Hey come on now guys, non-starting, dead-locked, self igniting, rig up a solar panel to keep the battery charged Freelanders - you gotta be kidding - Somefing aint right and LR should be kicked in the ass until they fix the situation Shocked

Why not send you concerns to Land Rover Customer Relations (UK) and let them filter your questions and concerns to the correct department who should help you out – that what they are there for!
If anybody needs a contact email for LR-CR-UK let me know (got it at home). They are well aware of Freel2.com (you could mention it in your email as well) and need a bit more chasing anyway Thumbs Up
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The British way is not to complain but attempt a solution yourself, even if it is a bit Heath Robinson Thumbs Up


Sorry AndyC. I was in too much of a hurry. I think Heath Robinson Could Have done Better. Thanks CG for the reply I new I could rely on you,

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waaxh03 wrote:
Thanks CG for the reply I new I could rely on you,

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Re: Deep Sleep

Leafy wrote:
Just had the same problem.

Apparently the electronics close down after a period.

After 23 days - was still OK - opened the car. After 33 days not OK.
The alarm lamp on the dash was flashing OK.


Getting back on topic:

Having just been away for 34 days, leaving my FL2 locked on the drive, I returned to find it would not respond to either keyfob. I got in via the passenger door using an emergency key, the alarm instantly sounded. Inserting a keyfob silenced the alarm and the car then started immediately with ease. After this, both keyfobs worked normally.

My conclusions:
The car does indeed enter a sleep mode which is a battery saving feature. Tuning off the receiver electronics, among other none-essentials will help prevent total car battery discharge during long periods of standing. This makes sense to me.
The time period appears to be around 30 days, based on my own and other's experiences.
Neither the car's battery nor the keyfobs' batteries were in a discharged state. The issue was normal intentional behaviour by the car's electronics.
Storing 2 keyfobs in close proximity will almost certainly have no detrimental effect. They are transmitters, not transceivers so will not detect RF from each other, not withstanding the fact that they only transmit when a button is pressed.
The keyfobs do indeed get charged when docked - we've always known that - but the charge method would not prevent storing keyfobs together either. It is likely an induction coil around the dock which induces charge current in a core/coil within the fob.

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This happened to me yesterday for the first time (I will have owned the car for 2 years from new in December 09) however the difference being I had pulled up at a petrol station, locked the car, went into pay, and then on the way out I could not unlock the car (the car was left for no longer than 3 / 4 minutes) - I had to open the car with the key, sounding the alarm. Inserting the fob stopped the alarm and the fob worked fine there after...

The only thing I noticed was that the guy next to me had accidentally triggered his car (Volvo) alarm off and was struggling for over 5 minutes to de-activate it with no joy (looked like his own key fob was unresponsive)... It was during this time that I could not open my own door with the key fob?

I put it down to some sort of radio interference or similar?

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Post #47051 1st Sep 2009 12:09 pm
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Sounds like interference from Mr Volvos car fob as this happens to me if my wireless garage alarm is triggered when I unlock the car until I am out of it's range Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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AndyT



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Car remotes use deregulated radio frequencies, often 433MHz or 868MHz. The same frequencies are used for countless other applications: garage door control/gate control/home automation/doorbells etc. etc. You can imagine how there might be 'collision' with other users since there's millions of us. The guy with the Volvo may have been repeatedly/continuously pressing buttons. Your FL2 will probably 'hear' his transmission but ignore it since the code/data structure is incorrect, however, while the radio receiver in the car is 'listening to' that, it can't clearly listen to your keyfob.
The whole system relies on the fact that you only need a few milliseconds of clean airtime to do the job, but sometimes you can't even get that.

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I admire you guys who can leave the FL2 alone and not riding with it for 30 days and longer.. Razz
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Mine did not start in a Calais hotel car park on Monday morning, it had only been standing since about 9pm Sunday night, had to ring LR breakdown.
A local garage came out Big Cry out to jump start it and no trouble since, but It is going in to Farnell Guiseley next week to look at.
I have been told that there are two recalls to do while it is in, one relating to the brake booster - anybody else had these done ?

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For those who had issues with the remote, see below.
The non functioning after a month is normal, due to shutdown of the Central Junction Box ECU

https://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/user...Issues.pdf

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Non starting again

After my non start in Calais I had the car checked at Farnell last Thursday but had another non start on Sunday morning and had to have a LR technician out.
Nothing to be found so I will have to live with this until next time I suppose - not impressed though, after two and a half fairly trouble free years.
I could do with a switch to disable all the non essential electronic gubbins and let me run a basic car - not much chance of that though.
PS The recalls I mentioned were actually for a Disco - Farnells apparently thought I had a different vehicle. Embarassed

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Re: Non starting again

techauthorbob wrote:
After my non start in Calais I had the car checked at Farnell last Thursday but had another non start on Sunday morning and had to have a LR technician out.
Nothing to be found so I will have to live with this until next time I suppose - not impressed though, after two and a half fairly trouble free years.
I could do with a switch to disable all the non essential electronic gubbins and let me run a basic car - not much chance of that though.PS The recalls I mentioned were actually for a Disco - Farnells apparently thought I had a different vehicle. Embarassed


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I have just returned after 4 weeks having left the FL2 locked in the drive. The car would not respond to the key and I had to gain admission using the key.

Just read the manual re; fob........they recharge while the engine is running.
Will try using the flat one and see if it recharges. That's after gaining entry with the good one.

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