Not according to the highway code, which is the link I included.
I also didn't know that the speed limit is 60mph for vans unless they are car derived ones. Out the way white van man! Indus Silver
GS TD4
Private Parts

Hi All and thanks

As of yet we havint got the van, as none are in the Aberdeenshire.

Just as well we have a large roofbox as well as the boot, for al the gear you require.

But this is the van we have our hearts on. The onlything that i wish to add is the AL-KO ATC Trailer Control system. This if i have worked it out will improve the handling even more.

What do you all think?

Alona 08 FL2 SE TD4 manual,Santorini Black, Factory fitted Black Tinted Glass, Anti-Tesco Trolly Side Protection, bebe confort axiss carseats & Cargo barrier to stop twin's buggy & junk coming through. NO Sweets Crisps or Drinks inside.
WITH TWINS, YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY Now towing a Abbey Vouge 650 1800kg

Tug weight 1958kg + Roofrails & Towbar

Cerdo, well I stand corrected & I'd better
SLOW down a bit

Alona wrote:

The onlything that i wish to add is the AL-KO ATC Trailer Control system. This if i have worked it out will improve the handling even more.

Alona

Alona,
Personally, I'd save the cash and spend it on something else. The ATC will NOT improve handling.... it is designed to (electrically) apply the caravan's brakes if the ATC box detects a 'sway' of the caravan start and thereby help to prevent a 'snake'. Twin axles are supposed to be much less inclined to snake (due to having 4 wheels in contact with the road).
Don't forget the FL2 already goes into a special 'trailer mode' on its stability assist program, when you connect a trailer to the electrics, which IS designed to help handling.
However, I'd suggest you read more about the ATC system on caravan forums rather than here ... lots there think they're the bees knees.

twodogs: Towing sppeds are 60 mph on dual carriageways and motorways, and 50 mph on single carriageways - unless signed lower speed limits are in force, of course. Its a pain as my auto FL2 is happier at 62mph

Thanks everyone.

Alona our van has the trailer control not sure its made a difference, but anything that makes it safer towing has got to be a good thing.

My 110 TD5 is my toy, so noise uncomfortable and poor fuel consumption is all part of the charachter !!!

Looking forward to collecting my van from service tomorrow so will collect with freelander

Regards D4 Commercial
Mini GP2

Hi All

I did have a look into the ATC system and as you said pjb they didint see anything. But when for some reason they had AL KO plug in their computer. It turns out that the ATC system has a memory that let them see how many times it came on without the driver knowing. They got the print out from the ATC controler.

Firestar

I didint know the FL2 had a (special 'trailer mode' on its stability assist program)

Alona 08 FL2 SE TD4 manual,Santorini Black, Factory fitted Black Tinted Glass, Anti-Tesco Trolly Side Protection, bebe confort axiss carseats & Cargo barrier to stop twin's buggy & junk coming through. NO Sweets Crisps or Drinks inside.
WITH TWINS, YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY Now towing a Abbey Vouge 650 1800kg

Tug weight 1958kg + Roofrails & Towbar

Alona, it was really an admonishment; I was just curious amd somewhat surprised. Indus Silver
GS TD4
Private Parts

We tow a fleetwood heritage 600 CB twin axle with our TD4. MTPLW 1750Kg. No problems whatsoever with stability including over shap on a very windy day. Plenty of pulling power as I found a couple of weeks ago while stuck behind an obviously underpowered campervan up the hill to The Ullswater campsite, some of which is around 1 in 5, with the van on the back. I thought it might struggle when I almost had to stop while the campervan tried to change gear but it drove off again without a problem. Really quite impressive.
 He who dies with the most tools wins!

Hi Toolking

How close to the tow limits are you vor your FL2?
And is that a mover on as well?

Alona 08 FL2 SE TD4 manual,Santorini Black, Factory fitted Black Tinted Glass, Anti-Tesco Trolly Side Protection, bebe confort axiss carseats & Cargo barrier to stop twin's buggy & junk coming through. NO Sweets Crisps or Drinks inside.
WITH TWINS, YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY Now towing a Abbey Vouge 650 1800kg

Tug weight 1958kg + Roofrails & Towbar

Firestar

I didint know the FL2 had a (special 'trailer mode' on its stability assist program) either.

Is it sometthing added to the 2009MY? p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

Last edited by ad210358 on 4th Oct 2009 9:05 am. Edited 1 time in total

Alona

As quoted earlier, the kerbweight for the fL2 is "fron 1775KG", which makes the MTPLW of our van a 100% match, somewhat above the advised 85% match. However, the 85% match is only recommended and up to 100% is thought to be ok if you are an experienced tower. I try not to overload the van so we should be below the MTPLW ( The loading allowance on the van is around 250Kg). The combination is very stable, much more so than the single axle we used to tow behind a variety of other cars, I actually bought my first FL to improve this.
The stated 2000Kg towing limit for the FL" is all about its ability to restart on a steep hill. My experience is that it has no trouble at all with hill restarts

We do have a Powertouch mover fitted, the only way we can do the final bit of parking it back in the barn where it lives. It does ok though you do need a fully charged battery and it struggles a bit to turn the twin axle. I found that a good solution is to use a Purple line Hitchdrive jockey wheel along with the mover, not because you can manually drive the jockey wheel but because it gives you a 'tiller' you can steer it with He who dies with the most tools wins!

wind the jack fully out and then your tandem axle becomes a single , the motor will wind it much easier then assuming the drive is on the rear axle?



the van body might drag on the floor a bit at that angle but I dont care, just ram the thing in the shed, better there than on the road


I have a tandem flat bed trailer and it moves so much easier with the front axle off the ground. At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

As our mover drives the front wheels,( It would not fit behind the rear ones as the kitchen drain pipes were in the way) we lower the nose as much as possible - this certainly helps but not enough to lift the rear wheels off the ground.

Thanks for the suggestion though

I was using the mover to get round all of the parked farm machinery the other week with the farmer watching - he decided he ought to get one for his cattle trailer. The cattle occasionally add to the fun if they are wandering round the yard. Really gets the wife going when they ignore her saying shoo to them.  He who dies with the most tools wins!

Toolking wrote:

Alona

As quoted earlier, the kerbweight for the fL2 is "fron 1775KG", which makes the MTPLW of our van a 100% match, somewhat above the advised 85% match. However, the 85% match is only recommended and up to 100% is thought to be ok if you are an experienced tower. I try not to overload the van so we should be below the MTPLW ( The loading allowance on the van is around 250Kg). The combination is very stable, much more so than the single axle we used to tow behind a variety of other cars, I actually bought my first FL to improve this.
The stated 2000Kg towing limit for the FL" is all about its ability to restart on a steep hill. My experience is that it has no trouble at all with hill restarts

We do have a Powertouch mover fitted, the only way we can do the final bit of parking it back in the barn where it lives. It does ok though you do need a fully charged battery and it struggles a bit to turn the twin axle. I found that a good solution is to use a Purple line Hitchdrive jockey wheel along with the mover, not because you can manually drive the jockey wheel but because it gives you a 'tiller' you can steer it with

Only asking as my kerb wt is 1958kg + towbar and roofrails. Which for makes it about 2000kg.

I know thats it been some time since i last had a van, but are two movers not better on a twin? Only asking as thinking of get it done.

But here is somthing.

If say my kerb wt is as per the V5 and i had the wt of the towbar and rails as i say. Then take this to a wt brigde and get that down on paper. If im then stopped by the police would that wt's be taking into consideration or would i still be over.

Alona 08 FL2 SE TD4 manual,Santorini Black, Factory fitted Black Tinted Glass, Anti-Tesco Trolly Side Protection, bebe confort axiss carseats & Cargo barrier to stop twin's buggy & junk coming through. NO Sweets Crisps or Drinks inside.
WITH TWINS, YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY Now towing a Abbey Vouge 650 1800kg

Tug weight 1958kg + Roofrails & Towbar

Towed like a dream, given it was a awful day and blowing a gale, thanks for all the input, even from CG he always brightens my day.

Toolking - nice outfit, we ended up with movers on both axles - try reversing in to a narrow space with a defender on a commercial site and you provide amusement for the rest of the happy campers for far too long !

Biggest problem is it flattens the battery very quickly !

Kind Regards

Paul D4 Commercial
Mini GP2