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BossBob Member Since: 30 Sep 2010 Location: Bristol Posts: 1444 |
Cracking the injector lines isn’t recommended with the high pressures that there should be in the fuel rail. It would be a good idea to get the fault codes read to see if you’ve introduced a fault. |
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7th Feb 2025 8:19 pm |
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OxonPete Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: S. Oxfordshire Posts: 83 |
Silent singer,
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7th Feb 2025 8:37 pm |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5155 |
AFAIK its bad idea to crack open the injector pipes : dangerous (extreme pressues involved), unnecessary for bleeding, and can cause seal leaks.
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7th Feb 2025 9:45 pm |
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Silent singer Member Since: 04 Sep 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 6 |
I have searched, and I find a lot posts on fuel filter replacement but none so far where they’ve screwed up the bleed, run it dry and then definitely bled it but it still doesn’t start.
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7th Feb 2025 10:03 pm |
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a100ian Member Since: 02 Oct 2016 Location: UK Posts: 171 |
This happened to me the first time I changed the filter after watching a YouTube video that didn't prime it properly. I can't remember the exact procedure of what I did. The first step was to ensure the fuel filter was full using the priming bulb. Then I had to use a syringe of filtered diesel to fill up any lines coming from the filter. I also did the ignition in ignition off routine and thankfully it started I had a can of easy start on standby (I know I know but I was starting to get worried) but didn't need it. |
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7th Feb 2025 10:23 pm |
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Silent singer Member Since: 04 Sep 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 6 |
Using the priming bulb on the return line, how do you know that the fuel rail is full? There looks to be returns from the injectors, the rail and the pump, all going to the same return port on the filter. Pumping the fuel from that filter port, the diesel would chose the path of least resistance, which would logically (in my head) be the pump return, therefore not even making the fuel rail.
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7th Feb 2025 10:45 pm |
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OxonPete Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: S. Oxfordshire Posts: 83 |
If the fuel filter is correctly primed then thé High Pressure pump will suck thé fuel up from the filter & pressurize thé common rail & injectors. Engine may need a fair bit of cranking since HP pump displacement is small……especially if it’s a bit air-locked due to running it out of fuel.
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7th Feb 2025 11:54 pm |
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Silent singer Member Since: 04 Sep 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 6 |
Strange because that’s what I did in the first place and when it became difficult to pump I thought, that’s it. I’ll give it another shot this morning. Thanks.
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8th Feb 2025 5:59 am |
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Silent singer Member Since: 04 Sep 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 6 |
That did it! Couple of 5 second cranks on a fully recharged battery and it started. After taking it for a spirited drive, the initial low fuel pressure fault (P0087) that prompted the filter change in the first place has also disappeared. Just finished putting her all back together and cue the rain. Happy days.
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8th Feb 2025 8:51 am |
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BossBob Member Since: 30 Sep 2010 Location: Bristol Posts: 1444 |
Well done! Glad it’s working again. A final thought, did you use a decent OEM fuel filter? Cheap knockoff copies miss out an internal valve that sends the correct temperature fuel to the injectors and filters missing the valve often give problems later on. |
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8th Feb 2025 9:55 am |
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Silent singer Member Since: 04 Sep 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 6 |
Bosch filter. Should be ok. |
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8th Feb 2025 10:09 am |
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sid Member Since: 16 Jul 2015 Location: devon Posts: 499 |
As a few others do,i fill the filter with diesel before fitting,as we do on any diesel vehicle,never had any problem. |
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8th Feb 2025 8:45 pm |
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OxonPete Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: S. Oxfordshire Posts: 83 |
Glad all ok now…….I am sure Bosch filter will be ok……set for 2 yrs now…..! I know Purflux make the filters for LR /PSA…..I usually buy the LR genuine filter kit…..but the Purflux can be bought for less…..Autodoc seem to stock lots of makes…..many are the same filter…different price. Lots of problems reported after changing fuel filter…..air locks ….when I first changed the filter on mine I thought “ LR should have fitted a pressure pump in the tank like on my Disco 2 TD5 “,no problem, except : I had to change the pump in the tank 3 times due to loud noise & thé fuel pressure regulator 3 times due to leaks. Expensive items…! I fit the filter then fill with injector cleaner……connect pipes & all ok…..so far…….got to do change anytime now…….5 th change of fuel filter. A bit mean of LR not to include primer pump in the system for the sake of a few pence . FL2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto MY 2012— current D2 TD5 HSE Man MY 1999 470kmls….gone 2014 ….lovely engine..chassis rotten D1 300TDI Man MY 1996 56kmls….gone 1999…D2 much better Wife’s FL1 1.8P MY 2001 32kmls …gone 2007…has Mini since. |
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8th Feb 2025 9:36 pm |
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BossBob Member Since: 30 Sep 2010 Location: Bristol Posts: 1444 |
You’ve made the newby mistake of thinking the pump in the tank is a pressure pump. It isn’t. All that it does is lift fuel from one side of the tank, over the transmission tunnel to the swirl pot at the bottom of the fuel line to the filter. The lift pump is part of the high pressure pump on the end of the camshaft. |
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8th Feb 2025 10:10 pm |
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