Just to piggy back onto this thread instead of starting a new one, but my 2014 GS with winter pack doesn't have fog lights and doesn't seem to have wiring loom for them either. Assuming as LR reached the end of the line with the car they just fitted what they had available.

Would be easy to install fogs on a separate switch, but just wondered what the thoughts are on fitting them and buying a left stalk with front fog light control. I realise the ECU might need reflashed or whatever to recognise that fog lights are installed, plus wiring would probably be more complicated, but I'm a sucker for that OEM look rather than fixing a separate switch somewhere!

If you read my thread http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic30627-15.html
You'll see how I went about it using a separate switch. New stalk is a possibility but I didn't want the hassle of coding and just made up a simple loom. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Yeah your thread was of great interest. Adding a switch isn’t an absolute deal breaker for me, but just wondered if anyone else had done it the other way and had any idea of difficulty of wiring up to stalk and potentially reflashing the ECU

Bobupndown wrote:

Quick query, can genuine front fogs be easily retro fitted to a 2014 GS, loom etc already in place?

Do you have much fog in Cumbria?

We don't in the West Mids. I have used the front fog lights only a handful of times in 9 years. Jules

I use them as additional driving lights on our narrow unlit country roads. They pick out the edges very well that's why I want them as bright as possible. FL2 SD4 XS 2013 Orkney Grey

Lakelander wrote:

Bobupndown wrote:

Quick query, can genuine front fogs be easily retro fitted to a 2014 GS, loom etc already in place?

Hi
Has anyone tried the replacement led fog lamps from Powerful UK part no FOG293-CRC. I like the look of them as I think they would compliment the led DRLs on the facelift model. I currently have the OE but with Nightbreaker H11s
but would hope the led ones would be brighter?

Lakelander wrote:

I use them as additional driving lights on our narrow unlit country roads. They pick out the edges very well that's why I want them as bright as possible.

Bobupndown wrote:

Lakelander wrote:

Bobupndown wrote:

Quick query, can genuine front fogs be easily retro fitted to a 2014 GS, loom etc already in place?

Hi
Has anyone tried the replacement led fog lamps from Powerful UK part no FOG293-CRC. I like the look of them as I think they would compliment the led DRLs on the facelift model. I currently have the OE but with Nightbreaker H11s
but would hope the led ones would be brighter?

I haven't but if you decide to fit them please report back your views on them.
I have the standard lights with cheap ebay led bulbs in them and have to say they are not particularly bright, or of much benefit when it's foggy!

I don't know about those particular lights but even with perfect optics, 9W of LED will not be brighter than a 55W halogen bulb. Halogen outputs about 20 lumens per watt, LED about 100 lumens per watt, so 9W of LED would be roughly equivalent to 45W halogen.

If you add to that the optical difficulties of capturing all the light and getting it out of the front of the fixture in a useful direction, there's no way it's going to be brighter than the original halogen lights.

I design LED lighting for my job and getting the output of an LED chip into a useful focused beam is really hard.

Thanks for the reply. You confirmed what I suspected. The relative low price of these items also suggests modest performance at best. I think they are more about styling than improved output. FL2 SD4 XS 2013 Orkney Grey